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Make Rearm ROC Banable
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:38 pm
by pwnagraphic
Not sure what else to say really other than its worse than Xin glitch, Perma Focus Fire, and honestly even perm invis glitch. I have no idea why this is allowed(it probably ruins 75% of the lod games played)
Can we get a movement to make this a bannable build? If not, why ban for less abusive combinations?
Re: Make Rearm ROC Banable
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:45 pm
by karasu.
What exactly do you mean?
Re: Make Rearm ROC Banable
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:37 am
by QTriNitY
This is considered imba build.
Not bannable.
Re: Make Rearm ROC Banable
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:32 pm
by QTriNitY
Its a strand of combos. Just an imba build. Not bannable as counter-able by player's skills and black king bar.
E.g. Warlock ulti Infernals + rearm + ulti infernals (Damage can be improved with Aghanim Scepter)
karasu. wrote:What exactly do you mean?
Re: Make Rearm ROC Banable
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:06 pm
by smurf
BKB does not work on infernos, but cleavage works just fine. lol
Re: Make Rearm ROC Banable
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:45 pm
by VirusHunter
or diffusal blade.
Re: Make Rearm ROC Banable
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:41 am
by pwnagraphic
ok so....
You cant counter xin glitch by going invis or disabling?
Can you not counter perm focus fire with stun?
etc etc etc.
The point is not that it CAN be countered, but that it ruins and makes the game kind of a waste of time. Any justification for rearm roc could be used for every bug/glitch/imba build, so I just dont see why they are different.
Re: Make Rearm ROC Banable
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:56 am
by NutzSucksHard
The cost of mana is high as 'f*ck'. You will need to build up before being allow to do the combo very well.
Also : In normal dota, we infernal > refresher orb > infernal... So what how about 4 infernal there? Even 6? This is UNBALANCED, LOD, if you can't handle none-glitch build, this is your problem, play normal dota then. You think it's not broken to pick impetus/overpower/Range of snipe/Range of TA ??? You die so fast. If we start bannign every single 'imba' build, well, why even playing LOD. We ban glitch that's all.
Wich mean, perma ult isnt cool. Infernal isn't perma, there's a CD/ManaCost/LifeTime. Ream as a High manacost when uped to max. (You need manapool).. So infernal (300) + ream(350) + infernal(300) = 950 mana. Put this average to 1k mana. Well, if seriously, you have such manapool to do it a third time, goodjob. Still, like I said, this is LOD, not normal dota, you have to allow some imba build.
++ game is SD, 75% of game are ruined? What's are probabilities you get Tinker AND Warlock in the same draft. Well, let's make some mathematics.
2 intel hero over 39 intel hero. Chance to draft JUST in intel are of : 5.12% chance.
Now to have these two hero in the same draft counting all hero. Cause yes, some game I had ONE intel hero only.
2 over 110 = 1.81% chance.
We're far from your 75% of the time. If we put all glitch together, yes, there will be MORE CHANCE that a game get ruin... But by this combo only, not very much.
We ban glitch, mean a bug in-game giving unfair advantage, like an ult not doing is job (like Focus Fire) or xin glitch (that is not suppose to add perma base dommage but still does it)
Re: Make Rearm ROC Banable
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:13 am
by QTriNitY
Nutz's summary is accurate. Thus we do not ban imba builds.
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smurf wrote:BKB does not work on infernos, but cleavage works just fine. lol
Black king bar works against infernals on the cast instance; stun. The imba portion is always the initial aoe stun that kills you.
If you wish to stand and fight the infernals, that's not very clever. Why not just kill the caster?
If the infernals are taking down your towers and barracks, that's just too bad.
Re: Make Rearm ROC Banable
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:23 pm
by karasu.
Moving to archive.