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Troll And Elves

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 3:38 pm
by LetMeHelpYou
The rule says
Elves may not build (in) a base with more than two builders. If your base is destroyed or a base with more than two builders needs help, you may go there to aid with spells but you must not build.


This can be exploited by 3 elves in a base with no buildings but 6 workers .

A 3 end game blades troll cannot even destroy a ultraionic wall while being repaired by 3 elves and 6 workers

here is one example . where this happened

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=93081&p=368805#p368805

i suggest the rule be clarified so people don't make it a excuse to exploit as in my above post

Thank you

Re: Troll And Elves

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 3:57 pm
by HazarDous
@LetMeHelpYou

So you're suggesting to change it to...?

@Av1oN @Arii

Re: Troll And Elves

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 6:01 pm
by LetMeHelpYou
Elves may not build (in) a base with more than two builders. If your base is destroyed or a base with more than two builders needs help, you may go there to aid with spells ONLY , but you must not build.


this one word can clear out things better in my opinion ,
as workers may be perceived as non buildings but they have a huge impact

Re: Troll And Elves

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:31 pm
by Cigogne
Elves may not build (in) a base with more than two builders. If your base is destroyed or a base with more than two builders needs help, you may go there to aid with spells ONLY. Building anything or making/bringing workers may result in the banishment of the incoming elf (elves).

Re: Troll And Elves

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:51 pm
by LetMeHelpYou
@Cigogne

So you agree with this ?

and still keep crying in the ban post ?
I find it funny bro

anyway thank you for your input
cheers

Re: Troll And Elves

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:58 pm
by Cigogne
Of course I agree.

I also find it funny because the fact you're trying to change the rule prooves that the actual rule doesn't apply to our case on the ban request which makes it -as I've been saying for a while- invalid.

But regarding that rule change, I find it reasonable as a player who plays the troll a lot.

Re: Troll And Elves

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:32 pm
by LetMeHelpYou
You still dont get it ?
Teal had a building in your base which u gave it to him
so thats 3 people building in 1 base



(29:29 / Private) cigogne: -gu teal).

even if the rule is changed or not ,
what you did there is clearly against the rules

Re: Troll And Elves

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:10 pm
by aRt)Y
LetMeHelpYou wrote:
Elves may not build (in) a base with more than two builders. If your base is destroyed or a base with more than two builders needs help, you may go there to aid with spells ONLY , but you must not build.


this one word can clear out things better in my opinion ,
as workers may be perceived as non buildings but they have a huge impact
Elves = builders. Workers != builders/elves.

The rule seems clear that the main builder is meant and not his units or buildings or whatever. Is this the confusion you are talking about?

Re: Troll And Elves

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:52 pm
by LetMeHelpYou
You Said,
The rule seems clear that the main builder is meant and NOT HIS UNITS or buildings or whatever. Is this the confusion you are talking about?


yes the ' not his units ' part is not clear enough in the rule according to me ( which was exploited in the above posted game link )


First to clarify
Is the rule meant > to allow more than 4 workers repairing a wall along with 3 elves ?

if the answer is yes
>then there is no confusion .

if no
> then the workers are perceived as non buildings
> builders workshop can be built outside and he can get his workers inside
> so he is not breaking the rule by building outside and getting workers inside

@aRt)Y

Re: Troll And Elves

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:30 pm
by aRt)Y
@av1on afaik rule was meant to forbid any help (be it worker, builder, buildings, etc.). Can you validate that?

Re: Troll And Elves

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:51 am
by Merex
http://wiki.entgaming.net/index.php?tit ... g:TnERules
Elves may not build (in) a base with more than two builders. If your base is destroyed or a base with more than two builders needs help, you may go there to aid with spells but you must not build.

Should be clear enough. Workers are a part of building because they are constructed with the intention to help another base.

People who play troll and elves should understand this rule being that only their elf (which carries the spells) are allowed in the base under such circumstance.

Re: Troll And Elves

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:03 am
by LetMeHelpYou
Okay


i still doubt if the rule still explains> bringing workers from a destroyed base along with your elf in a '2 elf base' is bannable

Thank you for clearing that up for me
Cheers

Re: Troll And Elves

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:43 pm
by aRt)Y