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ELO system concerning NWU

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:19 pm
by Lucifer
Hello dear readers,

I have thought for some time about the ELO system especially regarding Naruto Wars Unlimited.
For common Nwu players, it's no news that NWU is dieing (been a line for quite some years now, but still quite true)

Positive aspects: Competition, No necessary quick !draw commands.

Negative aspects: Stacking, Alting (making new account for those who don't know), AND THE MOST INFECTING: literally preventing New Players from getting into the game. And staying.

The thing is @Halibel is really putting a lot of work into this, so I think how I can help to make this game improve..

What I want to ask of all of you: Any thoughts about the current ELO system? Or even remove it completely?

Other suggestions would be good as well since it has its pros and cons atm and thus being problematic


-Greetz


Lucifer.

Re: ELO system concerning NWU

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 3:49 am
by flixdrako
My opinion on the matter would be to remove ELO altogether.. it is just creating more toxic players and preventing newcomers from staying into the game..

Re: ELO system concerning NWU

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:56 am
by ShadowFrosT
I just want to take a second and say that I appreciate everyone who has contributed to nwu. You have brought enjoyment to many people throughout the years and I personally wanted to say thank you.

I agree with you Lucifer. There is a rapid decline in the nwu community. There is still hope though. I see new players here and there and I try to help them out in the game. However, they are quickly harassed for their level of skill. No wonder people aren't playing anymore.

Here are some things I thought of reading your post.

1. I think that the ELO system could perhaps stay. However, why don't you make it like you do with legion td?
Maybe put a cap on lobbys such as players only below 1000 elo or 1100 elo can play in?
That way they can learn to get better and the game will be fun for them.

2. I really like what youre doing with adding new characters and items making the game interesting as ever changing.
Why not add in special effects for when someone dies? For instance, if neji makes a kill with 64 palms why not just show a short clip from Naruto of him using 64 palms?

Maybe we can get the duels back to a certain extent? instead of making the duel areana barren. make it a decent size so you have to find the player. Maybe a 2v2 would be a good idea. set it up as a int str vs a int str. Something along those lines.

3. More characters should be introduced into the line up. Theres a lot that deserve thought.

Any questions or concerns my inbox is always open.
I'm sure ill think of some more ideas.
Thanks, ShadowFrosT

Re: ELO system concerning NWU

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 6:36 am
by HazarDous
ShadowFrosT wrote:Maybe we can get the duels back to a certain extent? instead of making the duel areana barren. make it a decent size so you have to find the player. Maybe a 2v2 would be a good idea. set it up as a int str vs a int str. Something along those lines.


Wow, you just got me nostalgic. I miss duels..

Might want to post on the NWU forums, tho. This thread only regards ELO, and ENT has nothing to do with map editing.

Re: ELO system concerning NWU

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:59 am
by Lucifer
HazarDous wrote:
ShadowFrosT wrote:Maybe we can get the duels back to a certain extent? instead of making the duel areana barren. make it a decent size so you have to find the player. Maybe a 2v2 would be a good idea. set it up as a int str vs a int str. Something along those lines.


Wow, you just got me nostalgic. I miss duels..

Might want to post on the NWU forums, tho. This thread only regards ELO, and ENT has nothing to do with map editing.


Yes Frost, I replied you there too. Different topic here.

Anyway --- anyone else has thoughts on this?

Re: ELO system concerning NWU

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:24 pm
by aRt)Y
As far as I can remember, ELO has never worked for NWU. It made it twice as toxic as it already is.

I would leave that decision to the NWU mapper whether he thinks it makes sense or not as he knows the stats and game balance the best.

Re: ELO system concerning NWU

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 3:53 pm
by RosS
remove elo and no1 will play nwu from old players. No reason for play w/o competition. Or make better elo system

Re: ELO system concerning NWU

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 3:55 pm
by Albi
If elo is removed the majority of people playing this game will simply quit

Re: ELO system concerning NWU

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:22 pm
by ShadowFrosT
Suggestion about ELO
Why don't you make it like halo matchmaking is?
You could only pair with 1 other player and have the game autobalance before it starts?
THat should ensure for a fairly balanced game.

Re: ELO system concerning NWU

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:47 pm
by HazarDous
ShadowFrosT wrote:Suggestion about ELO
Why don't you make it like halo matchmaking is?
You could only pair with 1 other player and have the game autobalance before it starts?


We do not develop such technical features any longer.

Re: ELO system concerning NWU

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 2:54 pm
by aRt)Y
Well, unless Hali. gives his input, we wont change it.

Pls get in contact with the dev.