Do you get ban if merc leave before 31?

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Re: Do you get ban if merc leave before 31?

Postby godlik3 » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:13 pm

No waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay the merc should be banned...
so cross players should aslo be banned when they play against solo players cuz they have advantage to 1 - 31!!!!!!!
if 3 ppl play solo and 1 goes merc to help hold the insane sends on good crossers ofc he should be abble to leave 31.....
the other team have advantage on cross all game and we only have 1 merc ( really ez to beat )....plz remove that rule....
make no sense!

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Re: Do you get ban if merc leave before 31?

Postby Lucky » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:47 pm

Lol what I want to know is? Cursing and threatening people in threads is ok? Lotta mods in here and no one seems to care, just wanna check because I would love to curse out some morons on BRQs.
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Re: Do you get ban if merc leave before 31?

Postby 1005 » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:24 pm

@GoatsBeGone

You are being funny with the that had post which comment about me, show I went merc on 26. That was an accident mouse click. Why would I go merc when I got highest value and income in my team. We should have won that game, if an incident did not occur.

Mercing is part of the game. I do not think you should need to add more rule.

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Re: Do you get ban if merc leave before 31?

Postby GoatsBeGone » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:46 pm

So because you swapped by accident its okay to leave? we had a merc in our team so it would be 3v3..

It should be a rule, cause the minute you go merc you know the consequences if the game goes 31
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Re: Do you get ban if merc leave before 31?

Postby 1005 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:06 am

I never knew if this rule exists. Ent wiki rules did not mention in Legion TD about you go merc and you cannot leave before 31.

This is basically just a game, if people choose to leave anytime during the game regards whatever their reason. That is life.

Let autoban handle it. Keep it simple and no need for this rule.

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Re: Do you get ban if merc leave before 31?

Postby Krumme » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:30 am

Rethinking it all and reading all these reply's have slightly changed my mind
There is pro's and cons of being merc - if you play merc right it is so unbelieveably strong/unbeatable that I think it is only fair to apply bans to those that choose to leave at 31 for not being able to win BUT as leaving as merc does not create an direct advantage on 31 but more like less of an disadvantage
The ban should be 1 day no more no less IMO (less and it's kinda pointless? and more too much?)
The ban reason should be that your intentions is only regarding ELO-hunting and not what is fair
The reason should be that you exploiting the game to gain a bigger chance of winning is unfair - the game was not ment to be left but to be played out and leaving ON PURPOSE changes everything

Yes I still think there should be an extra punishment for leaving to gain bigger chances of winning as merc around lvl 30 but I get the points being made by the pro-mercs people in here

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Re: Do you get ban if merc leave before 31?

Postby bit » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:56 am

Off topic:
HugMeOnce wrote:@bit said he would ban both players and he didn't even ban the other guy LOL

I thought you got rid of your rage because of ban, get your facts together, i banned the other guy for the same length right away, don't know where you got your wrong info from.


Glad to see that most of those who posted here agree with banning for such abuse.

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Re: Do you get ban if merc leave before 31?

Postby HugMeOnce » Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:15 am

@Bit I never had any rage about the ban. I even came and talked to you and Agreements about it? And I even said that I was fine with the ban? The other guy I checked his stats page and when I posted he wasn't banned. Now after looking at his stats page he is banned. So that is the info I was going off on. Good to see things are fair now. Don't paint me out to be something I'm not thanks.

Also I counted 6 to 5 in favor for banning such abuse - good to see a lot of people weren't even aware it was bannable and that they finally put it in the rule...

Edit: When I type in the name beastly1991 it didn't show him as being banned but if i click on a game and then his name after one of the games it shows him as banned so I was probably wrong on this regard and thats why I thought he wasn't banned @bit

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Re: Do you get ban if merc leave before 31?

Postby godlik3 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:18 am

again should never be banned a merc for leaving 31...up up u see my post!!

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Re: Do you get ban if merc leave before 31?

Postby Lucky » Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:29 am

@hugmeonce if i have learned anything here it is save and articulate. Most importantly gather your thoughts, don't post quick. And get some higher ups on your side dude. If there is not blue or green backing your name your input, your time, your w.e into this site means nothing... Get adjusted.
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Re: Do you get ban if merc leave before 31?

Postby HugMeOnce » Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:40 am

@CarlosDanger

Lol, what are u talking about bro. Get adjusted? Are you telling me that it is important to suck dick to admins and mods. That they actually play favorites to people they like? Shocking. All I'm saying is that it should be fair to everyone involved. People leave the game all the time if they are not doing well which sometimes saves the team and they don't get punished past autoban. Equality is the only thing I've asked for nothing more or less. I've already accepted my ban after learning it was illegal to leave on 30.

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Re: Do you get ban if merc leave before 31?

Postby Lucky » Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:50 am

Yeah but Ua who owns this site is based in Boston. The rented servers for cheap who cares, on strategic points around the world, not hard to do... This is Capitalist America lol, who cares about your cries/what is right/wrong. I care about your dollar lol. This will be deleted by the same people who cannot stand the NSA. That is my biggest joy!
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Re: Do you get ban if merc leave before 31?

Postby TheLumberfetish » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:08 am

It seems until 2 days ago there was no official rule until arty went ahead and made it a rule without consultation of any other admins.

It seems you have been punished by merc quite some time to build up this intense personal hate against it. Any noob leaving after he has fed the team for rounds helps the team and will not result in a specific ban. This rule is more than ridiculous and must he abolished as fast as it got put in place.

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Re: Do you get ban if merc leave before 31?

Postby bit » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:35 am

It fell under game ruining. "New" rule is just to explain it for the players which doesn't have any common sense.

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Re: Do you get ban if merc leave before 31?

Postby aRt)Y » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:10 pm

@TheLumberfetish
TheLumberfetish wrote:It seems until 2 days ago there was no official rule until arty went ahead and made it a rule without consultation of any other admins.
That's just so wrong in so many ways. But I am glad you feel the need to post about things you dont know about.

TheLumberfetish wrote:nono, i get your point. But i think it's a cheap excuse for not finding a way to beat it. Leaving 30 is part of the game and if he didnt intend that he would have either not introduced merc or have the lane spawn after merc leaving.

First of all, it is no excuse. Enterprise Gaming hosts the games, therefore we create the rules which the players have to follow. LoD has many combos, too which are banned by ENT or other communities - there are probably more examples to show you that only because something exists in the map, it is not per se allowed by ENT.

TheLumberfetish wrote:
Qvist wrote:Well i was against it for some time ago, but around 20 out of the 20 games i played with someone pick merc on lvl 17 in cross - just delay the game to 31 and then Loose anyway. 3v4 is just 2 big of a disadvantage on 32-33-34. So the problem is small if pro vs pro meets in pub. 1 out of 100 games.


agree, so no need for a ban rule. normal autoban for leavers is enough.

Again, that's not the point. I dont care whether you lose or win the game. Leaving is ban-able and abusing the fact of a possible low ban duration to boost one's elo is also not ok.

godlik3 wrote:No waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay the merc should be banned...
so cross players should aslo be banned when they play against solo players cuz they have advantage to 1 - 31!!!!!!!
if 3 ppl play solo and 1 goes merc to help hold the insane sends on good crossers ofc he should be abble to leave 31.....
the other team have advantage on cross all game and we only have 1 merc ( really ez to beat )....plz remove that rule....
make no sense!

Wrong again. This discussion is not about having an advantage or not which should give one the permission to ignore certain rules.

Krumme wrote:the game was not ment to be left but to be played out and leaving ON PURPOSE changes everything

There's someone who understood what's all about.

I will close this discussion by quoting two important things players left out so far:
bit wrote:It fell under game ruining. "New" rule is just to explain it for the players which doesn't have any common sense.

bit wrote:Glad to see that most of those who posted here agree with banning for such abuse.


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