Antistuck rules

[oxoDus]

"Antistuck

1st. Can only be used on your side of the map.
2nd. Can not be used to kill-steal leaks from your teammate unless your teammate is dead.
3rd. Can not be used to delay units from returning to the king."

1st rule says its allowed to use antistuck, meanwhile 3rd rule disallowing to delay units from returning to the king. Any antistuck is delaying units. So it's allowed and not allowed at the same time.

More:

If teammate is dead(red) and you(blue) antistuck (u already delay units-violate third rule) it's no problem because red is dead. But then you steal leaks from teal and purple which is again bannable.

So why not just say "Antistuck is not allowed unless the units are actually stuck" ? Now I got banned because thought antistuck is allowed on pub bots, lol.

[Hutzu]

Quoting my PM to you:

1st rule: Restricts the usage of anti-stuck on your side of the map. Ergo, don't use it on opponents' wisps etc.

2nd rule: Don't use anti-stuck, if it is for stealing purposes only. For example, 1 ally leaked, you are all in middle. You antistuck some of your units, so they run up first and kill more than they normally would have. Only allowed if your lane-ally was dead and you want to AS your units and catch them before they give less gold [Edited: changed income to gold. income made no sense].

3rd rule: There is an exploit of AS, if your king is about to die. You keep your units from teleporting to middle. Once your king is surrounded, you let them pass one by one (or two by two etc.). That makes all demons and stuff stop for a moment and attack the returned unit(s).

If you want, you can suggest a rule-rewording for 3rd rule to "Can not be used to delay units from returning to the king, unless they can catch some units before they give reduced gold" or so. Though we have never had any problems with our definition so far.

[Spzi]

If you want, you can suggest a rule-rewording

Antistuck can be used to catch leaks on grass if your teammate is dead.
It must not be used if your mate is still alive (don't steal). It must not be used on enemies. It must not be used to delay units from returning to king unless there are leaks to catch on grass.

[nabo.]

Easy rule.

You can only AS to catch leaks or to use on send creeps.

If there is no leaks to catch, dont use it to delay or prevent your towers or others' towers from tping mid.

[oxoDus]

Or one can be childish enough to ban for trying to get some of my own leaks back (cross leaks lvl 4), haha. Would anyone (except kids) ban someone in this situation? Would you? http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 396356.w3g (lvl4). And cut that "rules are rules" crap, use some common sense somtimes.

[matdas]

middle is fair game. if you anti-stuck middle to steal on purpose, then it is a violation of the rules. Just cus you suck at cross doesn't give you the excuse.

[oxoDus]

(No one has antistucked in the middle, just on lane, but who cares right). People used to antistuck their own towers(as far as i remember), so crosser could catch some leak back. But now it's a tragedy, geez. Kids be kidding. Peace and chill out with your rules.

[MichaelSong]

1st rule says its allowed to use antistuck, meanwhile 3rd rule disallowing to delay units from returning to the king. Any antistuck is delaying units. So it's allowed and not allowed at the same time.

I expect you have learned "emphasis" on school.

For me, Antistuck Rules are pretty clear if you see in point of view of "emphasis" on several words, compared to each phrase.

Antistuck


• Can only be used on your side of the map.
• Can not be used to kill-steal leaks from your teammate unless your teammate is dead.
• Can not be used to delay units from returning to the king.

Hope this helped a lot to solve your problem.

To be honest, I don't see any gap which misinterprestation could go in. It didn't make any noise so far by majority which clearly means It is nice rule.

[MuscleHamster]

What about anti stucking a teammates units to catch a different teammates leaks? Like if I am red, teal leaks rounds, bounty is close to nothing so I anti stuck purple's units to catch teal's leaks? Is this allowed?

[SLSGuennter]

@musclehamster it is allowed, AS LONG as purple is cool with it. (so ask him before doing it, or u risk a ban)

[Qvist]

and this is absurd right?

Friendly as only allowed........

Ofc.. - Should be allowed in all scenarios !

[nabo.]

What about anti stucking a teammates units to catch a different teammates leaks? Like if I am red, teal leaks rounds, bounty is close to nothing so I anti stuck purple's units to catch teal's leaks? Is this allowed?

It is allowed. It is best to ask or tell your teammate you are doing so for good intentions though.

However, if your teammate tells you to stop and to not anti him again, you must stop. If not, you will be banned. We will always consider the intention and impact of questionable acts and offenses when reviewing ban requests.

[Qvist]

great

Seems more reasonble, since antistucks with good intentions shouldn't be bannable without an announcment that you don't want antistucks in your own lane.