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no mid mode in mega games?

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 5:57 pm
by bezdak
What would you, guys, think about nm (no mid) mode for a mega bot aswell? (this is not a suggestion yet, just a discussion - I'd like to see more opinions)
What i whould expect from this step:
- increasing the skillgap
- make rankings much more fair (since it's now combined with ent31 players)
- make the ent18 -> ent31 transition MUCH EASIER
- sharpening a learning curve for new players (since they would be forced to concentrate on the actual building and tactical aspects of the game rather than its exploiting)
- make a pre-made team of two crossers less OP
- make the competition in general much better
- show the real skill of all the dedicated ent18 players with over 2k elo

Re: no mid mode in mega games?

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 2:09 am
by Jabba41
- make rankings much more fair (since it's now combined with ent31 players)

-> Doesnt really matter at all, you can still smurf. ELO doesnt mean much.



- make the ent18 -> ent31 transition MUCH EASIER

-> True, but not everyone on mega aims to play on 1200+.



- sharpening a learning curve for new players (since they would be forced to concentrate on the actual building and tactical aspects of the game rather than its exploiting)

-> Due to no mid mode, crossing, catching leaks and building together later in the game its possible to compensate someone who fails hard and make the best out of it. With nm mode you wotn have this possibility and avoiding players would increase even more.



- make a pre-made team of two crossers less OP

-> A lot of players like to play cross. Pre-teams would still have a big advantage, see the point above.



- show the real skill of all the dedicated ent18 players with over 2k elo

-> Elo != skill. No one needs to proof himself to anyone, so this point is useless.


Many players like to cross, like to sharre auras, like to be able to catch leaks. Mega gives you a lot more ways to play the game. Getting a "1200+ bot" for newbies will take away the fun for a lot of people and many would quit for sure to play on ENT. You can still announce -nm modes if you want to play it on ENT18.

Re: no mid mode in mega games?

Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 9:28 pm
by punzer
I personally am not a fan of building mid, and think it ruins a lot of games because it is too powerful. I think -nm should be default. The game is better balanced this way, imo.

Re: no mid mode in mega games?

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 3:07 am
by Jabba41
We hhave a 1200+ bot fot this. @punzer

Re: no mid mode in mega games?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 4:36 am
by Troll_Champion
Since it can be announced, i guess no need for a bot (although the euro bot never is used anyway, so it could be altered)

But the fact that you can reverse bad builds with merge, well, only better players does this. Newbies just lose, so i would say it is kinda evened out, by that more experienced players, then also has a chance to fail. As it is now, merge is new meta by far, it is even way stronger then cross cause you can ensure mid.

But wasnt there once a no cross bot?? that noone used???