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Postby Taboo » Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:06 pm
Ok, here are my goblin results:

No upgrade - 960/minute
1st up - 1050/m
2nd up - 1080/m
3rd up - 1170/m
4th up - 1260/m

I was not harvesting with builder.

I found this on the forum, and people usually tell me IG that it is completely useless to research it with goblin.

So, what is true ? Thanks

It changes the cooldown on their harvesting like so:

[tabel]L=Upgrade%Rate%Per Minute, Per Harvester
L=No Upgrades%1.85%324.3 (60/1.85 * 10)
L=Improved%1.75%342.8 (60/1.75 * 10)
L=Enhanced%1.65%363.6 (60/1.65 * 10)
L=Advanced%1.55%387.0 (60/1.55 * 10)
L=Super Advanced%1.45%413.8 (60/1.45 * 10)[/tabel]

Edit: Apparently tables don't work?
Edit#2: Thanks Arty.

Ok thank you!

thats what I thought when I stopped upgrading it.

Neco wrote:It changes the cooldown on their harvesting like so:

[tabel]L=Upgrade%Rate%Per Minute, Per Harvester
L=No Upgrades%1.85%324.3 (60/1.85 * 10)
L=Improved%1.75%342.8 (60/1.75 * 10)
L=Enhanced%1.65%363.6 (60/1.65 * 10)
L=Advanced%1.55%387.0 (60/1.55 * 10)
L=Super Advanced%1.45%413.8 (60/1.45 * 10)[/tabel]

Edit: Apparently tables don't work?
Edit#2: Thanks Arty.

Did a bit of maths and figured this out:
After 10 minutes of lumbering with 0 ups you get: 9729 lumber
After 10 minutes of lumbering with 1 up you get: 10284 lumber
=555 lumber difference (costs 500 for upgrade)

So for one upgrade it will take ten minutes of lumbering with the upgrade + the minute it takes to research the upgrade meaning that every piece of lumber you earn after ELEVEN minutes will make you a profit on the 500 lumber you initially spent at the start.

After 9 minutes of lumbering with 0 ups you get: 8756.1 lumber
After 75 seconds of lumbering with 1 ups and 7 minutes and 45 seconds of lumbering with 2 ups (it takes 75 seconds to research the second up) you get: 9739.2 lumber
= 983.1 lumber difference (costs 1000 total for both upgrades)

So for both lumber upgrades before merchant is required, it will take 9 minutes of lumber + 135 (75+60) seconds for both upgrades meaning that after approximately 11 minutes and 15 of uninterrupted lumbering from 3 harvesters, you will be in profit mode and be harvesting more lumber than you would be without any upgrades.

tl;dr get both lumber upgrades for goblin asap as after 11 minutes and 15 seconds you will be making a profit

-ToastyBagel

Did a bit of maths and figured this out:
After 10 minutes of lumbering with 0 ups you get: 9729 lumber
After 10 minutes of lumbering with 1 up you get: 10284 lumber
=555 lumber difference (costs 500 for upgrade)

I think you left out turn-rate when they go to submit their lumber.

I'd recommend trusting Taboo's empirical numbers than these theoretical even if they lead to the same conclusion.

I found this on the forum, and people usually tell me IG that it is completely useless to research it with goblin.

Funny thing is, people ingame are generally completely useless themselves.

Remember, the sooner you get the ups, the higher the payoff. When you've got a strict gamestart formula for a specific builder, you'll be much more efficient with time + resources, and getting the wood up the first possible second it's availible is an important step.

Also I might just be superstitious, but I believe that where the seed Builder's shelter is placed and which trees the workers are chopping may also impact harvesting rate. A worker whose back is to the shelter may make longer to turn, drop, and resume chopping than one who only has to turn slightly.

Taboo wrote:

I found this on the forum, and people usually tell me IG that it is completely useless to research it with goblin.

Funny thing is, people ingame are generally completely useless themselves.

And this is why you don't listen to pubs.

It is confirmed that @Taboo is a math genius. Please become a professor at my local university and teach me. <3