1. Provide a list of aliases. These are names that people might recognize you as:
ChaosSs@europe ; Nettuno@useast
2. Please provide some replays of LTD Mega 3.41 games so that vouchers can better assess your skill level.:
3. If possible, provide a list of LIHL players who might know you or that you are acquainted with:
nobody that i recognize right now...
4. Any additional information that you would like to provide:
Would like to join lihl if i'm good enough .
edit : I'll add replays when i have some good games
1st...
ChaosSs@europe
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Re: ChaosSs@europe
Lihl 1.w3g:
when red types the mode u should go wisp fast....if u get units that u cant wisp u just cancel it...
built pyro to far...on lihl u cant do that or u will build almost all ur towers on dark green area...
if u build only 1infatary for 2 u should go 3/0 as fast as u kill wave 1....if not build 2 infantary so mb u can hold bolg on 2...
second infantary wrong position....dont build for oracle it doesnt worth on early game....
after 3 u took to long time to full wisp...
u ob on a 4v3 game and 1 of ur mates had ygg...doesnt worth it u should'ed full income after 5...i advice u to build 3 pyro instead 2 pyros 1 zeus cuz it holds 5 and 6 and u can full income after....
i stoped watch after 6 =)
lihl 2.w3g:
wrong positioning and again building to far....i didnt get u didnt income and u didnt go for hold....the time u saw ur team had immo u should'ed income or hold'ed to get feed... I stoped watch after 7!
man that replay 2 was really bad...i think u should watch some lihl games or download replays from some players...
dont think u r ready for lihl at this moment sorry =(!
when red types the mode u should go wisp fast....if u get units that u cant wisp u just cancel it...
built pyro to far...on lihl u cant do that or u will build almost all ur towers on dark green area...
if u build only 1infatary for 2 u should go 3/0 as fast as u kill wave 1....if not build 2 infantary so mb u can hold bolg on 2...
second infantary wrong position....dont build for oracle it doesnt worth on early game....
after 3 u took to long time to full wisp...
u ob on a 4v3 game and 1 of ur mates had ygg...doesnt worth it u should'ed full income after 5...i advice u to build 3 pyro instead 2 pyros 1 zeus cuz it holds 5 and 6 and u can full income after....
i stoped watch after 6 =)
lihl 2.w3g:
wrong positioning and again building to far....i didnt get u didnt income and u didnt go for hold....the time u saw ur team had immo u should'ed income or hold'ed to get feed... I stoped watch after 7!
man that replay 2 was really bad...i think u should watch some lihl games or download replays from some players...
dont think u r ready for lihl at this moment sorry =(!
Re: ChaosSs@europe
Keep in mind that these replays are on ent18 full of crossers, if nobody crosses solo is easier...
in ent18 a little ob is a must
maybe i'll take some in ent no cross
in ent18 a little ob is a must
maybe i'll take some in ent no cross
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Re: ChaosSs@europe
Nettuno wrote:Keep in mind that these replays are on ent18 full of crossers, if nobody crosses solo is easier...
in ent18 a little ob is a must
maybe i'll take some in ent no cross
I think you don't understand what god.lik3 meant. It was a game 4 vs 3. There is no need to overbuild. Yolo is way more important!
You stay 4/1 for lvl 7 with infantry. You would do that once in lihl (and people will tell you not to that again) and after the 2nd time people would flood the PM box of the lihl mods to unvouch you.
Also very important: Infantry is a yolo unit, not meant to hold!! It can easily recover with their strength. I am usually a very careful player, but 5/2 with infantry before lvl 7 is a must!
I have only watched the first replay. And I agree with everything god.lik3 said. On top I would say that building pyros in oracle formation is useless. They are not worth to have oracle buff. Not enough hp! Only do oracles for units with 1.5k+ hp imo.
Edit:
For a rough idea how to play infantry lihl-style, look at this replay: viewtopic.php?f=64&t=36483&start=10
archol's post on top of that page. I played infantry with 1 holder in the team. But generally you can always play like god.like wrote.
2 pyros for 4 are enough, 3 for 5 and then go yolo. Or do it like I did in that replay. Note that 2 pyros and 1 zeus do NOT hold lvl 5 (though only tested that once)!
Edit2:
Watched 2nd replay now as well. I will be blunt, but don't take it personal please. You are far from ready. There were way too many mistakes in that game. Starting with the levels 1-3. There is like no way in hell you can get 2 wardens for 3. Especially if one side crosses and the ally on your side has archers. Thus staying 1/0, even until lvl 2 has already ended, is a major mistake.
Next mistake is lvl 5. You keep 217 gold, I think. You try to hold lvl 5 with Knight, Moonguard and Copter. This decision by itself says a lot. You need 100g on hand to get another moonguard for the next level. 100g+180g(creeps)+18g(round money) = 298gold. And of course your income of at least 2gold. If you had built 2 t2 units or 1 t3 unit or whatever, you wouldn't have leaked.
But now in general about those units you chose to build:
Moonguard, Knight, Copter, Mermaid. They are not meant to hold 7 (maybe if you can skillfully get 1 warden + 1 mermaid + knight + copter and place them well, then you can hold your own lane but not more). You stayed 3/1 I think and couldn't even hold your own lane. After lvl 4 you knew you had immolation. Why OB to begin with? It shows you don't know that those units are bad for lvl 7.
Also while lvl 7 is going on, you don't push income. Instead you overbuild again for lvl 8, adding a mermaid and upgrading ranger to melilai. You got an ally with archers, he holds 8 for your team and the other one has wolverines and holds 10 for the team. And the units you had were enough to hold lvl 9.
You could have gone full income there.
Just way too many mistakes. Watch some/more replays of lihl games to get an idea of what you need for the next time you might apply.
Re: ChaosSs@europe
ok thanks for taking the time to watch my replays and teaching me where is was wrong:) i'll start watching some now,
should i watch replays from accepted in lihl subforum or some where else?
and about mermaid and stuff.. i tend to get all usefull units before rerolling wasn't meant to hold 7 for all the rest yes you both might be right
i need some improvements.
should i watch replays from accepted in lihl subforum or some where else?
and about mermaid and stuff.. i tend to get all usefull units before rerolling wasn't meant to hold 7 for all the rest yes you both might be right
i need some improvements.
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Re: ChaosSs@europe
Rather watch those of lihl than people applying.
https://entgaming.net/customstats/lihl/top/1/
Just go to some of our players and look at their game-history. Watch the games with names like 'lihl[2 digits][1 letter]' (e.g. lihl34r, 34 = 2 digits, r = 1 letter).
Those are the lihl games. There you can get inspiration about how you can yolo/hold with certain units.
We usually hold with yggs, blasters, harlots or greymanes and nothing else. The rest goes either yolo or semi-yolo. If you want to hold, you wont be able to play like that in pub games, that is for sure, because they would need to know how to play as well. They wouldn't go full income and you would overbuild too much. But try some good yolo replays.
And always remember to have a good unit to recover after 10. Otherwise you will just keep leaking like crazy. Check with team who builds anti 17 and who anti 20 units. It is utterly noobish for all to first build anti 17 and then anti 20. Try to get some communications going within the team.
https://entgaming.net/customstats/lihl/top/1/
Just go to some of our players and look at their game-history. Watch the games with names like 'lihl[2 digits][1 letter]' (e.g. lihl34r, 34 = 2 digits, r = 1 letter).
Those are the lihl games. There you can get inspiration about how you can yolo/hold with certain units.
We usually hold with yggs, blasters, harlots or greymanes and nothing else. The rest goes either yolo or semi-yolo. If you want to hold, you wont be able to play like that in pub games, that is for sure, because they would need to know how to play as well. They wouldn't go full income and you would overbuild too much. But try some good yolo replays.
And always remember to have a good unit to recover after 10. Otherwise you will just keep leaking like crazy. Check with team who builds anti 17 and who anti 20 units. It is utterly noobish for all to first build anti 17 and then anti 20. Try to get some communications going within the team.
Re: ChaosSs@europe
ops just read to not attach blaster or aqua or archers replays in lihl wiki... but i kinda think it shows my understanding of lihl playstyle.
Re: ChaosSs@europe
archol wrote:Ive read something about infantry yolo ... today i had infantries too and i teached teal archer yolo (he did it perfect, except the stupid oracle build for halfbreed later)
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=4221951
Teal played perfect? You made him go 7/9 but made him save to 17 after a few king ups? The guy only had 4k value at 17 and basically got fucked on. IMO that is terrible YOLO play
Last edited by Pavonis on Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: ChaosSs@europe
No need to attack me just because I made a post critiquing your definition of perfect archer play. You asked him to up to 7/9 during 11 which was a mistake IMO since he wasn't even going to use any wood until much later. If he just stayed 7/7 he would have cleared 17 easy with his roll and would have had the ability to send as well. What's the point of YOLO if you are going to be 4k value at 17? Just seems redundant to me
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Re: ChaosSs@europe
@Nettuno
Hi and thanks for applying, sadly we have to deny your application at this point.
You already got some nice feedback, you need to improve your knowledge of towers, how much gold you (roughly) get per level, positioning, basics of yolo incoming etc.
I suggest to watch/observe LIHL games, keep trying to improve and you can reapply in some weeks.
Good luck!
Hi and thanks for applying, sadly we have to deny your application at this point.
You already got some nice feedback, you need to improve your knowledge of towers, how much gold you (roughly) get per level, positioning, basics of yolo incoming etc.
I suggest to watch/observe LIHL games, keep trying to improve and you can reapply in some weeks.
Good luck!
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