Halo_mauler is biased and ineffective, should stop moderating dota games

[RichardCoffee]

Hello,
Halo_mauler is biased and ineffective as a mod. His admin calls are abnormally bad even by ent standards. He should be de-modded. If this is a strong statement, I'm sorry but it's the truth. If you need proof, see below:

1) Take this one thread a few months ago, where he banned me for "ruining" jazzy's game:

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=147413&p=565313&hilit=inshreds#p565313

He claims it was a "24 hour ban" so that I explain myself, yet there was nothing to explain. You don't ban players for explanations unless a rule was already broken. I have a rule to not engage with jazzy if he files a ban req since he just wants drama, so I refused to comment (did send halo a PM though - he kept the ban up despite my PM). FYI this was NOT ruining, it was just me making a slightly different build (not even that odd). All the deaths were in team fights defending rax. There was nothing explain, yet he banned me for an entire 24 hours!

2)
Take this example, where he blatantly ignored evidence to repeatedly claim that maphack evidence was actually a totally normal play, he seemed to ignore everyone and just hand-waved everyone who agreed it was highly suspicious (extremely unusual to have consensus for mh evidence here):

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=147434

3) He is inconsistent in bans/standards, as evidence here:

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=147419&p=565371#p565371

Due to a previous thread, halo warned me to not spam or circumvent ignore as it's very "serious" and will result in a 5 day ban next time. I decide to report that someone did exactly what he told me was serious from a previous context. His response to my report was that I'm wasting peoples' time, as this is not serious - even though he told ME he would ban ME for it. (Let me know if you need me to link to him saying exactly this to me, in another context, a few weeks before this post). He also is on record as banning another player for 'vk abuse'/ignore circumvention - something he totally hand-waved and ignored in this case. (Let me know if you need a link to him banning a player for this).

4) Ban with transparently fake reasoning

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=148156

Added "griefing" to his ban, presumably to extend it to 1 week. When explaining how this was possible when no griefing occurred, he said "grief is for acting out trying to get banned". The Party from 1984 would be proud of this circular logic.

5) Ban for "racism" yesterday

viewtopic.php?f=7&p=569867#p569867

From a neutral perspective, this is one that I felt was subjective and could understand either way. Astros' argument was solid, and made sense especially with the AI chat message screenshot. Yet I could see a little bit of the other side's argument. Therefore I was interested to see the modding result. Overall, however, I think the key piece of evidence was this: this ban was not worth processing due to the overall context (Someone reporting astros for revenge for THEIR ban, not a good faith ban request). It was just a scuffle, trash talk as happens in online games.

Then Halo chimed in, inflamed the situation more, and the worst of all? His comments made it sound like his take was 100% objective, and that there was NO way what he said wasn't absolutely correct and fool-proof, over a request I read and immediately thought was a good deal subjective. And then he proceeds to ban the guy for DAYS over nothing, while casually claiming he's just a racist and that's that.
Then in all this halo ADMITTED that he wasn't sure how to tell if it was just trash talk: "Maybe it was just trash talking but it's hard to tell between you guys" You can't even make this up.

6) Requests evidence for a ban request in the form of timestamp, calmly re-assuring that the user will be banned for breaching ENT rules. Once evidence is provided, proceeds to threaten OP to ban them and ignores the evidence:

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=147959&p=566991

He did process the ban adequately at the end, but only after 2 people called him out mid-thread asking what he was doing. You can tell he was trying to get out of it, presumably because he was lazy to go through the replay and had some weird hidden anger to take out on m4kr32.

7) Racism thread over use of **ga word.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=148492

This is a fake thread by FromCali, who just submits ban reqs on people who insult him for gameplay stuff.

Halo, being an old white man, decided to begin speaking with authority on uses of the n-word and said it's bannable, despite mikejones and multiple other people using it in games. Halo took it a step further and decided to speak specfiically to black people saying: "doesn't matter if you are black or not still not ok to say". Alright, the black community should start being dictated to by halo_mauler over their choice of words now?

This guy is bringing down the quality of dota games, and it sucks hard. I was really hoping to not say anything but it's reached a fever pitch point for me as you can tell by these 7 examples over the course of months which took me 5 mins to pull up. I'm sure there's about 10 more examples. This guy just refuses to stop moderating dota, which he doesn't know that well. He has explicitly been asked to stop moderating dota stuff. Yet he continues.

[TopRank]

I agree with this post, lately his bans have been really bad. plus he admits he is NOT a dota player. He never plays it, and doesn't have the knowledge required to be a competent mod for dota.

His bans have poor judgement and are unfair, remove him as mod and let Iamback and Mike handle the bans. They are both very good mods and players who understand dota very well.

[halo_mauler]

you can appeal on the forums like everyone else
not banning someone one 1 timestamp
mods ban on 2 or more instances on vk abuse
racism has nothing to do with playing dota
i don't do dota ban requests unless im asked
fyi but doing a racist ban request has nothing to do with playing dota hh legion or w/e game
if you tell a black person to go back to africia its racist
no one is going to tell anyone to go back to anywhere
no one needs to say nigga to play dota

[Astros]

I asked Halo if saying "India sucks" is racist and he told me yes, it is racist.

It clearly isn't. Saying India sucks could have a variety of meanings such as you dislike the food, environment, etc.,

You have to understand Halo and his POV. I'm sure he means no harm but he's not the most logical person so if he finds a ruling to be his way, he's unlikely to ever change course. The negative of this is he's the longest tenure active moderator so he's setting the standard that the other moderators probably feel they are beholden to follow. That's just the reality.

We've already established that his DotA decision-making on ban requests are often times, incorrect.

Trashtalking happens frequently in DotA.. You're too used to playing HHTD where all the players talk about is when to send, what to build, etc., DotA is far more competitive in nature with more personalities so friendly and harmless trashtalking, even if it slightly has to do with race, has always been a part of the game. MikeJones understands this because he actually PLAYS the game... And he actively participates in the trashtalking because it is an understandable part of the game. Same reason why iambackk had a colorful history here as well that he's trying to clean up due to being a moderator but you're essentially taking away from the player we all know and liked him to be. Just be honest, everyone here liked ifck better when he was allowed to shittalk. He's boring as fuck now to play against cause he doesn't say anything other than ENT stuff. Trashtalking is second nature here. This is not anything new. It's only new to you because you don't play DotA enough to understand. In your mind, DotA has to be like HHTD where everyone just talks about DotA. Sorry, it does not work that way.

In my opinion, because you are mainly familiar with HHTD, you should just stick to HHTD. Just like how Matty only sticks to HHTD because that's all he knows. Or just like how MikeJones doesn't do HHTD cases because he only plays DotA. DotA players, even those who are banned, prefer the moderator who is actually active in DotA. Respectfully, we don't want you moderating DotA ban requests because you have not done a good job doing so. You might be familiar with the rules but you aren't familiar with the community, which is ultimately far more important.

I also want to establish that while ENT rules exist, everyone knows that ENT is far more lax now... That's why iambackk was made moderator without a formal process. Because it's far more casual than it used to be since there is a smaller playerbase and everyone is familiar with one another, that means the standards of when players should be banned is also more lax... Back then, if you dodged one time, you had to wait for a couple of months to appeal. Now, if you get banned for dodging, you can just appeal the next day and promise you won't do it again. I'm saying all this just so you understand that you should be more understanding of the community at the CURRENT state.

If the players are not ruining the games and are doing harmless trashtalking, let it happen. Obviously, wishing cancer, etc., is a different story. But friendly back-and-forth banter that doesn't harm the quality of gameplay should be ignored. And due to your inability to understand that, that is why you can't find a single competent player who plays DotA who wants you to moderate DotA games... just ask yourself WHY... your moderation of DotA games have been negative. It will lead to a higher decline of players who believe you are sucking the fun out of the game. I think I speak for everyone that DotA games have been taking longer to start. Your actions have not helped.

Your rules should not supersede common sense. Bans today should not be handled the same way it was handled 8 years ago. The game, community, and players have changed. Stop thinking it's different. At the end of the day, it's a game. Are you making the experience better? NO. So stop it.

[halo_mauler]

yes you asked me if saying india sucks is racist and i said yes that was incorrect
but when you say india sucks and go back to india its breaking the rules
you are a smart guy you know you are insulting jazzy
like i said 0 tloerance with you and jazzy you 2 need to leave each other alone you both have historys
Do not flame, rage, troll, or insult other players excessively.
i read where someone was proud of you for lying about being black to get jazzy just let the hatred go man

[Astros]

I never said Bangalore sucked.

All I said was 'Back to Bangalore."

That alone is not excessive. Nor it is an insult with the lack of context here. You incorrectly handled it. Don't confuse your ability to be able to ban someone as you making the correct decision. The fact I accepted a ban just means I don't care enough to seek judgment on it. If this were real life, you'd be getting sued and reprimanded for improper handling.

Who cares if I have a history with Jazzy? when I play with or against him, my gameplay is the same. If you can't handle back-and-forth trashtalk, sorry, old man, go walk outside to the park and smell the flowers instead. This isn't a family picnic event.

Halo, you know I'm right on this. How? If we created a poll asking DOTA players if they want you to remain a moderator for DotA games, it would be a convincing NO. Just face it, dude! I know it's tough to digest but just moderator HHTD games and leave DotA to MikeJones and iambackk! Simple as that. That would be by far the best thing you will do for ENT.

[halo_mauler]

iambackk doesn't want to deal with you, and mike was asked not to, it doesnt take a dota pro to see when someone types something to someone you both need to stop with each other show me 1 dota game i have reviewed since mike came here

[Astros]

iambackk doesn't want to deal with me because we've had disagreements dating back many years when I would ban him for telling me and others to get cancer, death to my family, etc., Obviously he doesn't like dealing with me because I'm the only one who actually remembers this and call him out for his very partial treatment where he would never ban no_rules when no_rules says 100x worse things than anything I've ever said.

You don't know that history because you never actually moderated anything worthwhile.

Also, I love how you gloss over the fact that a poll would undeniably be against you as a moderator. Maybe they love you in HHTD but I can assure you, you are no favorite in DotA. I can name 30 people here who can do a better job moderating DotA games than you, minimum. And yes! You've proven my point. No one remembered who you were until you came back to handle a ban request involving DotA. That's a good thing!!!

And I won't stop. You can ban me for a year if you want. You're a net-negative to the DotA community. True or false? I think you're a nice person but pretty dumb. Which is perfectly acceptable since you are not alone in that regard.

Mike says he will handle these cases from now on so you can excuse yourself. Your services are no longer required and good luck to your future endeavors - thank you.

[halo_mauler]

he doesnt want to deal with you after he banned you for racism last time and mike can talk to me about you if he wishes still waiting on that replay

[Astros]

this is literally you man. fix yourself as a human. it's embarrassing.

and this is the suggestion section. you should be more receptive of what the community wants.

[halo_mauler]

i reviewed some brqs after you had your first episode about middle eastern people
and reviewed some when iambackk was busy before mike came
anything else i did, didnt have anything to do with dota
there are no dota games i reviewed since mike right?
didnt do any while you were mod either right?

[halo_mauler]

maybe stop crying and talk to haz is all i have to say done here

[mk4r32]

Trashtalking makes the games so much more competitive and fun. One of the biggest reasons why the game quality enhances when Astros, Jaydin, Mars, Nimbus, Richard etc are on besides their gameplay IQ.

We don’t even really mean it like that so people shouldn’t be so emotionally hurt by it.

VK abuse and spam !ignore ban requests are the dumbest shit to ban someone on unless it’s done excessively throughout the game up to a point where it’s distracting the actual gameplay for others or if someone wrongfully gets kicked in game.

Y’all are right. Halo seems like a nice guy but he needs to stay out of dota completely even if it’s not necessarily in regards to the actual gameplay ruin ban requests.

We have all played with each other long enough where we know what their true intentions are over context and their history.

Lastly, I know I’m being repetitive but y'all keep accusing Astros of being a racist but he’s clearly not. It’s just a part of trashtalking and roasting the players that won’t play their role correctly in game.

[RichardCoffee]

Well Halo is a nice person, stop blaming him for nothing, if you disagree, just give him advices without attacking him.

Actually i am more for banning people who's refusing to learn like one man army, kuzko, pegase, to improve the gameplay than banning people for some flame.
I full focus on people who ruin, and also racist words.
Some people won't learn and refusing to learn, some others want to improve, so i am also for giving a second chance to everyone if this one admit his mistake and don't do it again.
We are a small community as everyone know so we need to enjoy all together guys.
Stop harassing people like that, Halo spending time here and mikejones, me also. We spend many hours to improve the game play so we can sometimes do a mistake also because we are humans like you guys

Regards

[EdteOfChaos2]

It would probably be best if Halo left the DotA moderation to the DotA moderators. He's simply not part of the DotA community and is unaware of many things.