Halo_mauler is biased and ineffective, should stop moderating dota games

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Re: Halo_mauler is biased and ineffective, should stop moderating dota games

Postby MIKEJONES » Sun Apr 06, 2025 5:26 pm

When I stepped away from the ban request due to accusations of favoritism toward Astros, @Halo_mauer didn’t hesitate to step in and help (viewtopic.php?f=25&t=148489&start=30). Despite his own busy schedule, he took the time to review the situation fairly and that deserves respect, even if you disagree with his conclusion.

The truth is, we simply can’t account for every possible scenario when it comes to enforcing ENT rules. The context always matters. There are too many variables—things we don’t see or know—that can shape how a comment is received. That’s why interpretation plays such a huge role, especially when it comes to sensitive topics like racism or bias. For me personally, how something is said and whether it crosses a line into excessive or harmful speech is what matters most. But not everyone will see it the same way, and that’s actually a good thing. Differing perspectives among moderators create balance and accountability.

Yes, some of you may strongly disagree with how this was handled. That’s okay. I get it. But let’s not lose sight of the fact that Halo was just trying to help a gesture that came from a place of responsibility and dedication.

If you’re looking for someone to blame, blame me. I could’ve made the call on the original ban request and none of this would’ve happened. But I chose to step back for the sake of fairness. All I ask now is that we move forward. Let’s keep this community strong not by tearing each other down, but by recognizing the effort we each put in to keep it going.
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Re: Halo_mauler is biased and ineffective, should stop moderating dota games

Postby RichardCoffee » Sun Apr 06, 2025 6:21 pm

I 100% agree and am in favor of spreading positive vibes.

When I made this thread, I was hoping to address just one - one - key point in all the drama: Halo can't moderate dota well. He himself has agreed. He lacks context/knowledge. And he has agreed to recuse himself, but keeps coming back over and over to dota requests. I think the only reason he comes back to dota requests is to feel important, since hellhalt gets less activity. Sorry but its the truth man idk what else to say. I and everyone else were super respectful to this guy for a long time but his response to the politeness is to, like, ban us or something over random requests. I mean I was crazy polite to this guy when he first started, and he banned me over a jazzy thread for game ruining where he admitted he had no evidence of ruining! Put yourself in my shoes.

Halo has agreed that he would stop doing dota requests as soon as new mods were up, yet he just processed 2 in the past week alone.

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Re: Halo_mauler is biased and ineffective, should stop moderating dota games

Postby halo_mauler » Sun Apr 06, 2025 8:14 pm

halo_mauler wrote:i reviewed some brqs after you had your first episode about middle eastern people
and reviewed some when iambackk was busy before mike came
anything else i did, didnt have anything to do with dota
there are no dota games i reviewed since mike right?
didnt do any while you were mod either right?


this thread was stupid im not trying to moderate dota it was pointless you can't stop doing something you weren't doing to begin with
the requests i processed had nothing to do with dota

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Re: Halo_mauler is biased and ineffective, should stop moderating dota games

Postby Astros » Mon Apr 07, 2025 10:51 pm

Halo, we are trying to explain to you the dynamics here.

1) The community is very small. The ENT rules that you are legislating should be taken less seriously. If the players are not ruining the games and for the most part, actively playing, you shouldn't take it so seriously.

2) Your previous handling of DotA ban requests did not sit well with the active players on here because it was poorly done. Richard already listed them but that's why people felt you shouldn't do it because it wasn't done with the understanding of someone who knows DotA. You might have played a long time ago but that is no longer relevant here.

All we are saying is yes, we understand the ENT rules. We also understand that the game isn't what it used to be. Smaller community, more casual, and more familiarity with the players on here should be given more leniency. Mike understands this dynamic. You can't treat bans the same way that it was done many years ago. It can't just be black-and-white. Give some wiggle room and focus on the real ruiners. Everyone's playing and there is some shittalking involved? Who gives a shit. No one is going to call the cops. They will talk shit back and move on.

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Re: Halo_mauler is biased and ineffective, should stop moderating dota games

Postby halo_mauler » Mon Apr 07, 2025 11:22 pm

i reviewed some brqs after you had your first episode about middle eastern people
and reviewed some when iambackk was busy before mike came
anything else i did, didnt have anything to do with dota
there are no dota games i reviewed since mike right?
didnt do any while you were mod either right?

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Re: Halo_mauler is biased and ineffective, should stop moderating dota games

Postby Astros » Mon Apr 07, 2025 11:27 pm

I am talking about how you are treating things as 'racist' when they are not and are very insignificant.

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Re: Halo_mauler is biased and ineffective, should stop moderating dota games

Postby halo_mauler » Tue Apr 08, 2025 12:55 am

Seems like you go to extremes trying to get jazzy banned, who pretends to be black in order to provoke someone. Just leave each other alone.

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Re: Halo_mauler is biased and ineffective, should stop moderating dota games

Postby Astros » Tue Apr 08, 2025 3:10 am

Saying back to bangalore is an extreme? C'mon, stop overreacting. it was literally one sentence that could be misconstrued many different ways. Not inherently racist.

I say it because I know Jazzy gets deeply affected by it so in turn, his gameplay is affected. Then when he responds back with an insult, it's more fulfilling to kill him. I only said I was black because Jazzy said nigger one time and when I asked why he was being racist, he thought I only asked him that because I must be black.

Either way, it's just banter. It's not a big deal. No racism, just basic shittalking. You are the one going extreme thinking everyone has to sit around and sing kumbaya. Let us talk shit together and if it gets really bad, Mike will handle it. We don't need you to overreact and cause problems. We want to talk shit and know our limits.

Also, some of us are in the younger crowd born in a school system where nigga was widely used without any racial denotation. When we say 'nigga', it's like saying 'buddy'. You might be confused with nigga vs nigger. Two huge differences. If some idiot in Argentina doesn't understand U.S. culture and we are speaking to our fellow Americans, then why is it our fault? They are the ones who are having the language barrier - not us. You don't see us going to Argentina saying that what he is saying is offensive to Americans, do you? These are very common phrases used in American culture! I say nigga all the time and I love it!

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Re: Halo_mauler is biased and ineffective, should stop moderating dota games

Postby halo_mauler » Tue Apr 08, 2025 10:07 pm

if its banter tell your friends to stop reporting yall
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