cskjhfdgh@useast.battle.net MH

[misterSLEEPY714]

Your battle.net username: MisterSleepy714@uswest.battle.net
Violator's battle.net username: cskjhfdgh@useast.battle.net
Game name (if known): [ENT] DotA arem us/ca #28
Bot name (for example, ENT15):
Approximate date/time of game (alternatively, link to a Stats page): 29/10/2012, 16:52
Rule player violated: He used map hack through out the game, shot rockets directly at me while I was farming in neutral zone. He knew the movement of whole team.
Time of incidents (Note in-game timer or replay timer): Whole time during the game.
Any further thoughts: He probably brought buddies in the game too, their team would not vote kick him out and play fairly.

[misterSLEEPY714]

caught the same guy again, he just used akjdfa;skljf;asklfj;asklfj;akfj kind of name to play.
name is xkjehvhnbn@useast.battle.net and he said "delusion" twice, so I can confirm it is the same guy.
The game name was under [ENT] Dota arem us/ca #88.
Please perma ban him. Thanks admin

[adventureclub]

Banned.

[uakf.b]

Need confirmation. You should include what times show he is maphacking.

[ENTAccountX]

False accusation. I randomly rocketed creep camps when all or most enemy players were mia throughout the game. I happened to get lucky and hit misty and he was mad because we dropped them so he requests ban, then of course when I see him in another game and also demolish him, he just uses any excuse to call a false ban accusation because he's spiteful. Notice how there's no basis in the second post and the first post is about a random rocket to a camp, it wasn't like I rocketed him while he was walking to a lane before he got there, it was a camp right by the lane which he was in previously. He's just an angry liar who is a sore loser.

Even consider it from a rational standpoint. In the replay he was at too high an HP amount for a rocket to even do any damage to him. It's retarded behavior for any maphacker to try something like that, there's no rational explanation other than my random rocket shooting for me to rocket him at a creep camp even if I was to be maphacking, it makes no sense that I'd rocket there. It was obviously a random rocket and not a maphack shot, as a maphack shot would be pointless. If, I had, however, shot him when he was creeping at 10% and killed him, then he'd have a reason to complain, but because it was just an arbitrary harmless random hit, he has no reason to complain other than because he's angry he lost and wanted to whine his way to getting back at someone. Too many whiners these days who can't take losing so they make up a maphack that isn't present to justify them blowing in 2/2 games I had with him.


The point is, by deductive logic and inductive, it does not make sense that this shows I am maphacking. Thus, I request a repeal of the ban as this is a false accusation.

If I shoot a rocket into their forest at a creep camp near the lane that I was in, this does not mean that I both (knew he was there) and that even if I did know he was there (that this means I knew he was there due to using a third party program that allows me to see him). Neither of those are given as the case beyond a reasonable doubt (as I have provided the reasonable doubts above in detail) and thus we cannot conclude that I was maphacking in even one of the two games he says I was doing so in, and thus this ban accusation is based on invalid and poor reasoning and thus it cannot be concluded that I was maphacking, and thus this ban request is invalid and my ban should be repealed. Thank you for your time.

[misterSLEEPY714]

You sure do try to cover well...how would you explain the new account creation and the usage of a'lkjfklfj kind of name? and you randomly teleport into the forest right next to me with nature prophet? The rocket was 1 shot out of 1 directly right at me, is that luck? no. I don't think that's luck. And yes I am angry to lose to noob map hackers like you. Funny if you're a legit player then you would not be using that kind of name. And you obviously followed most of us on the opposite team through out the fog.

P.S. Trolling doesn't make you sound cool, it is worse. And it gives admin more reason to ban you for flaming.

[ENTAccountX]

You sure do try to cover well...how would you explain the new account creation and the usage of a'lkjfklfj kind of name? and you randomly teleport into the forest right next to me with nature prophet? I don't think that's luck. And yes I am angry to lose to noob map hackers like you. Funny if you're a legit player then you would not be using that kind of name. And you obviously followed most of us on the opposite team through out the fog.

Red herring. My name has nothing to do with maphacking or not. I also make arbitrary passwords and don't use emails to make accounts. I don't have the time to use one account and remember one password such as 'snowball48757' I just make an entirely new account each time. So, again, this does not get us to 'must be a maphacker'. I know plenty of people who make arbitrary accounts that do not maphack. Further, if I was to maphack, I wouldn't waste my time making a new account because all bots I play on track IP and so it is pointless to make a new account in hopes that a maphack ban will be avoided. Think things through before you speak. Your argument is still nonsense. I know plenty of legit players who use such names.

I teleported into the woods nearby you, but not ontop of you, thus I was not maphacking, I was simply teleporting into the woods to check creep camps because I noticed that most of your team was mia. And no, I didn't obviously follow most of the team throughout the fog, I simply check often. Perhaps you should pay attention to how obvious you are when you play. So, again, this accusation is also invalid from both a logical and a common sense perspective and you have failed to demonstrate a maphack in any manner.

Further, you beg the question in your reasoning to say that I am a maphacker and you are mad to lose to people like me that maphack. You assume the initial point and this is a logical fallacy. Your argument, line by line, as I have shown, is incompetent and poorly constructed and you have failed to demonstrate the point in every way.

Ad hominem attack to say that I am trolling. I am not trolling, I have, as any reasonable person can see, dissecting each point you make and showing that you have not demonstrated a maphack. So, therefore, yet again, by showing logical fallacy, you have yet again failed to demonstrate maphack and falsely accuse of trolling.

[ForMaDawgS]

ima allso confirm on this maphack
banned moving to processed

[adventureclub]

I will rewatch just to make sure.

Because its not 100% I will unban. Yes, he is very suspicious next to invised units. Yes he rockets roshan only when opposing team is there(not only time they are mia, also does not rocket when his teammate calls they are roshing, but they aren't there.) And yes he rockets you in creeps randomly. Unless another admin has a different opinion, or you go through this replay even more thoroughly or the 2nd replay and give me times of instances not just instances, I will unban him.

Also, if you really want this player banned, go to the stats page and review more of his games. You can find all of the replays of his recent games. If he does indeed maphack, you will probably find something that proves it. If and when you do, remember to post the exact time of the instance so it makes it easier to review.