Your top 3 heros

[whatafaka]

if u could actually play slark, u'd know he rapes huskar and is a better early gamer than huskar.

[zerodenies]

Slark can outfarm huskar easy in a game because he has something Huskar lacks - mobility plus aoe with his pact. He can run fast from lane to lane and jungle midways.

... slark is usually played in tri lane carry because as solo mid he has to pay for every cs he tries to get. and huskar is maybe one of the strongest punishers with his burning spears. Every time slark comes close to creep wave for a cs, Huskar can orb walk him and take off a good 1/3 of his hp. Slark would at least need a roaming support to help him out mid if he wants to farm anything against a nonretarded huskar.

[greenmtn]

1st: Puck; great ganker and kiting hero. Many people will waste a lot of time trying to kill a puck. See s4 at the TI3 for how devastating a puck can be.

2nd: Tiny: love early quelling blade for extra last hitting. Great ganker with a dagger and can late game carry with a manta, scepter, ac/buriza.

3rd: Invoker: can play almost any hero role effectively. Great initiator and kiting hero similar to puck.

[ren]

These three branch get converted into a wand later on. Bottle is now 650 you start with 625. Clarity Tango worth the effect of your bottle for easy 2 minutes and more. Why? You don't use the nuke of SF until it reach level 2 (hero level 3 maybe 4 if you up first necromastery). Otherwise it's 1mana:0.90dmg (resist). Not worth it.

So you don't need bottle earlie game, you get me? you have enough time to farm it out and end up your wand before having the need of your bottle. Hence the reason to get earlie game attribut / Regen / Stick (stick will heal you if your opponent cast enough). Also, heal of your bottle can be canceled if you are not using it safely. So you don't need again that god damn bottle earlie game. Bottle is usefull, a bit later in the game.

Let me clear it a bit. If your opponent get rune over you, bottle is useless. Now crow need to wait 3 min. So refilling with the courrier sucks. Therefore, wait the 3 min, up courrier, get bottle from it + ward later on. Bring it back to you with ward, place ward, win with bottle. I seriously don't see the usage of a bottle on SF at level 1 - 2 - 3... Wich is easly the first 3 minutes of the game. This is way enough time for you to farm your wand + bottle + ward if support doesn't get it.

We have both different opinion, we should maybe 1v1 SF mid? Let's see how much usefull is your bottle while I get all these last hit while you're going filling the bottle... SF is about farm and last hit, running to rune is useless even more if you fail to have it (opponent get it before you, you have no vision and guess where it is etc). I prefer to have regen that I can count on. :/

ill 1v1 sf mid with bottle.

@child

[zerodenies]

ill 1v1 sf mid with bottle.
@child

if you ever find a pro replay where sf gets bottle first please show us.

the logic of getting a bottle first doesnt even make sense. Use a little math and you would figure that out. ESPECIALLY in a 1v1 SF vs SF which your asking for lolol.
your bottle rush vs an sf that gets stats items... if both of you are the EXACT same skill, the one with bottle will get 0 cs theoretically.

GG. use your brain before talking.

[ren]

ill 1v1 sf mid with bottle.
@child

if you ever find a pro replay where sf gets bottle first please show us.

the logic of getting a bottle first doesnt even make sense. Use a little math and you would figure that out. ESPECIALLY in a 1v1 SF vs SF which your asking for lolol.
your bottle rush vs an sf that gets stats items... if both of you are the EXACT same skill, the one with bottle will get 0 cs theoretically.

GG. use your brain before talking.

then beat me?
You can talk like a boss coz you are not gonna play, but you wont talk like that if you against me haha
or are you scared?
and I didnt say PRO GETS BOTTLE with sf. none of the decent sf players get bottle first but thing is I can still beat a guy who can ONLY TALK COZ HE WONT PLAY with sf with bottle first.
thats the point. if you dont play dota with talking only, show me? against me? beat me?
or just make excuse and get out son.

[zerodenies]

then beat me?
You can talk like a boss coz you are not gonna play, but you wont talk like that if you against me haha
or are you scared?
and I didnt say PRO GETS BOTTLE with sf. none of the decent sf players get bottle first but thing is I can still beat a guy who can ONLY TALK COZ HE WONT PLAY with sf with bottle first.
thats the point. if you dont play dota with talking only, show me? against me? beat me?
or just make excuse and get out son.

that fail logic. keep it up son. I said logically it doesnt make sense. and apparently even you know it. you don't get any benefit bottle first. and again, lets use our brain a little, i said if the two sf's are same skill, the one with bottle will theoretically get 0cs against an sf with even a single gg branch.
GG. fail arguement. lets use our brain a little aite?

p.s i could probably outlast hit you even if you had a divine rapier. my user name was zerodenies as a joke cause I'd average 50 denies per game. (easily got over 100 if I wanted to be a tool about it with a death pacting clinkz)

[ren]

then beat me?
You can talk like a boss coz you are not gonna play, but you wont talk like that if you against me haha
or are you scared?
and I didnt say PRO GETS BOTTLE with sf. none of the decent sf players get bottle first but thing is I can still beat a guy who can ONLY TALK COZ HE WONT PLAY with sf with bottle first.
thats the point. if you dont play dota with talking only, show me? against me? beat me?
or just make excuse and get out son.

that fail logic. keep it up son. I said logically it doesnt make sense. and apparently even you know it. you don't get any benefit bottle first. and again, lets use our brain a little, i said if the two sf's are same skill, the one with bottle will theoretically get 0cs against an sf with even a single gg branch.
GG. fail arguement. lets use our brain a little aite?

p.s i could probably outlast hit you even if you had a divine rapier. my user name was zerodenies as a joke cause I'd average 50 denies per game. (easily got over 100 if I wanted to be a tool about it with a death pacting clinkz)

see? you only talk. yea you cant talk son but you cant 1v1 sf agasint me sigh.. how sad..
let me know ANYTIME when you grow up, and face me

[zerodenies]

then beat me?
You can talk like a boss coz you are not gonna play, but you wont talk like that if you against me haha
or are you scared?
and I didnt say PRO GETS BOTTLE with sf. none of the decent sf players get bottle first but thing is I can still beat a guy who can ONLY TALK COZ HE WONT PLAY with sf with bottle first.
thats the point. if you dont play dota with talking only, show me? against me? beat me?
or just make excuse and get out son.

that fail logic. keep it up son. I said logically it doesnt make sense. and apparently even you know it. you don't get any benefit bottle first. and again, lets use our brain a little, i said if the two sf's are same skill, the one with bottle will theoretically get 0cs against an sf with even a single gg branch.
GG. fail arguement. lets use our brain a little aite?

p.s i could probably outlast hit you even if you had a divine rapier. my user name was zerodenies as a joke cause I'd average 50 denies per game. (easily got over 100 if I wanted to be a tool about it with a death pacting clinkz)

see? you only talk. yea you cant talk son but you cant 1v1 sf agasint me sigh.. how sad..
let me know ANYTIME when you grow up, and face me

funny cause in the three years i played, i never saw you play ih in any of the clans nor did I see you play in the ENT tournaments. (i could be wrong since i didnt play every tourny but still)

and considering how you have 1 denies avg in your game history, i think you should shut up.

[ren]

ok if you are scared, stop making excuse. if you are skilled player or at least a guy who has a ball.
woulndt be like this.
why dont you just play? ive been asking for playing and you just DODGED all the time.
I dont even need to answer your questions.
ive played a lot of tourneys . way more than you.
if you are not a MAN enough to play agaisnt me.
please just shut up.

[EdgeOfChaos]

Ren, just to warn you in advance, he's a known hacker who's banned from ENT games.

Not saying you can't beat him, but you'll start at a disadvantage.

[ren]

Ren, just to warn you in advance, he's a known hacker who's banned from ENT games.

Not saying you can't beat him, but you'll start at a disadvantage.

its ok dude.
its 1v1 solo mid. even tho he mh it will be shame for me if i lose.
you know how many mher ive raped.