Active / Inactive

[JunZzi]

No I asked why you said I was inactive, Then you said i dont meet the standards. But sexy is saying I do meet the standards?

So which is it?

Eld, you said inactive, on the basis of me playing 25 games, But as sexy and much other people have said, IM Not inactive, so why are you able to throw around words that can mean I can get unvouched?

AND. You and sexy are on different terms of Who can be determined "Inactive"
So clearly theres no Uniform rules for the LIHL Mods.

[bit]

@eldryan lihl mods agreed to not use autounvouch system before you joined mods, so it's you who don't actually know what's going on. we agreed to unvouch case by case, and only really inactive players, because we didn't like the outcome when alot of people got unvouched at the end of past season. too bad iznogood is afk.

[eldryan]

No I asked why you said I was inactive, Then you said i dont meet the standards. But sexy is saying I do meet the standards?

So which is it?

Eld, you said inactive, on the basis of me playing 25 games, But as sexy and much other people have said, IM Not inactive, so why are you able to throw around words that can mean I can get unvouched?

why am I able to throw around words... pretty self-explanatory. Because i have a keyboard.

I said that the standard is apprx. 30 games per month for 1 point. For shorter seasons, it was 70 games for what was at the time a planned 2 month season. "So we're approaching what was supposed to be the end of season 2 (2 month season length)." From supersexyy's announcements.

From a previously (to the 3month change announcement) thread made on auto-unvouch: viewtopic.php?f=82&t=17627&hilit=unvouch+activity "Activity

1 point: >70 games played
2 points 40-69 games played
3 points <40 games played" Iznogood. These are all things the other mods can view as well. If they don't read their posts, fine. It is, technically, in the formula.

@bit I've read all of the Archive. And current topics. Nowhere is what you are saying mentioned. If you did it all unofficially, without mod consensus (apparently) then obviously it's not the standing procedure. (obviously in the end, it was less then 70 games used, so everyone didn't get a point, as dweiler brought up somewhere).

[eldryan]

Keep me out of LIHL.
You are 5 people on the team, and you should be able to talk like normal persons about matters like this, without me or anyone else.
And for the record, if people have the best interest at heart, there is no reason why they can't join the team.

No worries. Bit didn't read their own procedures posted,

[supersexyy]

1. That formula wasn't used
2. That formula says everyone is 'penalised' (which doesn't make sense)
3. 30 games per month is 90 games? I can't see ~90 anywhere
4. You are whining to admins.. lol??

[eldryan]

don't listen to him, there is no "standart" atm, we unvouching only really inactive players. i still don't know why eld is lihl mod. he always threatened players and had one of the worst attitudes. oh wait, i know, @agreements wanted to see "what happens".

For the record, I've never threatened a single player... Or even reported more then two (one was furbolg for obvious flaming/hating and the other was ztx)fiji for !Muting chat with admin command to stop all chat).

@supersexyy wrote:
1. That formula wasn't used
2. That formula says everyone is 'penalised' (which doesn't make sense)
3. 30 games per month is 90 games? I can't see ~90 anywhere

it was 70 games, which is about 100 games per season. I know it says that, later it was clarified it would use under 70 (typo on iznogood's part I believe).

I said 30 games per month, and I didn't say he would get unvouched, obviously.

In answer to other posted stuff, obviously (since no one is coming to confirm) junzzi is lying about half of this (30 games in 3 days, I would've unvouched him already) and my activity (i have 95 LIHL games since december 17th).

[dweiler]

Since I was the one that came up with that unvouch system: activity is a factor for unvouching. But I think that pointing out JunZzi as someone who is in danger of going there is mildly absurd.

However, since the mods just stated the unvouch system is not in place anymore no one can give you any guarantee and you are subjected to the grace of the mods (although in reality this means that no one is ever gonna get unvouched anymore unless they play 0 games).

[spoiler=offtopic about unvouch system]I wonder why the mods were so unhappy with the unvouches?

Those were the unvouches:
HealByColor (currently banned)
ClearFluids (terrible record this season, does he belong in this league?)
Johannaa (totally inactive)
BigDikcAsian (totally inactive)
Rock.Steady (totally inactive)
Avitaenoir (at the bottom of the league again, can be questioned if he belongs here)
Psyclone (fairly inactive, deserved his 2nd chance)

Don't think handpicking by mods will do better than this.[/spoiler]

[eldryan]

Since I was the one that came up with that unvouch system: activity is a factor for unvouching. But I think that pointing out JunZzi as someone who is in danger of going there is mildly absurd.

However, since the mods just stated the unvouch system is not in place anymore no one can give you any guarantee and you are subjected to the grace of the mods (although in reality this means that no one is ever gonna get unvouched anymore unless they play 0 games).

[spoiler=offtopic about unvouch system]I wonder why the mods were so unhappy with the unvouches?

Those were the unvouches:
HealByColor (currently banned)
ClearFluids (terrible record this season, does he belong in this league?)
Johannaa (totally inactive)
BigDikcAsian (totally inactive)
Rock.Steady (totally inactive)
Avitaenoir (at the bottom of the league again, can be questioned if he belongs here)
Psyclone (fairly inactive, deserved his 2nd chance)

Don't think handpicking by mods will do better than this.[/spoiler]

I agree. I liked your system. No one ever complained in actual thread. It also takes away favoritism, and allows for an objective unvouching criteria. All I said was "inactive", then after he commented on my LIHL mod status and complained about power abuse for saying the word "inactive" (literally was entire line I said) I said "technically, this is rules".

[supersexyy]

No need to archive since there is discussion still going on: But FYI Eld I think it was 30-40 games ish gave 1 point, which is 10-13 games a month. Junzzi isn't even close to even receiving one point.

[eldryan]

No need to archive since there is discussion still going on: But FYI Eld I think it was 30-40 games ish gave 1 point, which is 10-13 games a month. Junzzi isn't even close to even receiving one point.

I quoted the final number stated in that thread. I also stated (explicitly) we don't unvouch new joins unless they go below the amount of 30 games / month. I didn't see the new post.

[JunZzi]

THANK YOU. Clearly ELD is on his high horse, and this is borderline MOD Abuse.
I have 25 games in 10 DAYS. And he says thats inactive.

ELD Shouldnt of said anything, Since Im not inactive, but yet He did, and now its gone this far.

No need to archive since there is discussion still going on: But FYI Eld I think it was 30-40 games ish gave 1 point, which is 10-13 games a month. Junzzi isn't even close to even receiving one point.

[supersexyy]

1. That formula wasn't used

And anyway 70 games is 23 games a month, why would you round up to 30 lol

[eldryan]

THANK YOU. Clearly ELD is on his high horse, and this is borderline MOD Abuse.
I have 25 games in 10 DAYS. And he says thats inactive

No need to archive since there is discussion still going on: But FYI Eld I think it was 30-40 games ish gave 1 point, which is 10-13 games a month. Junzzi isn't even close to even receiving one point.

I didn't archive it. I said I was archiving, since no one was saying anything - inb4 after that mickie posted. And no, being on a high horse isn't mod abuse. Make a complaint in "complaints" if you wish.

[JunZzi]

This is a complaint? What do you think im doing? Its a LIHL Complaint. No needs to put it in the main complaint folder, since its only dealing with LIHL.

EDIT:

we don't unvouch new joins unless they go below the amount of 30 games / month

If you dont unvouch for under 30 games/month, and i have 25 games in 10 days, Why are you saying Inactive, and in general ill be unvouched?

[eldryan]

This is a complaint? What do you think im doing? Its a LIHL Complaint. No needs to put it in the main complaint folder, since its only dealing with LIHL.

Yes, I think you are making an LIHL complaint. About a moderator. In a thread where I am the moderator for the forum. I'm recommending you take it to the section made solely for this. viewforum.php?f=10

Edit (If I've already responded, please add a new comment): I told you the procedure. And, I said, at 25 games, you will HAVE ONE POINT ADDED in your unvouch criteria. I didn't say anyone was getting unvouched.