LTD 1v1 leaving before round (0 elo gain)

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LTD 1v1 leaving before round (0 elo gain)

Postby I_kill_satan » Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:19 pm

Unfortunately still teh same - opponent saw bad units and leave, and 0 elo.


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Re: LTD 1v1 leaving before round (0 elo gain)

Postby nabo. » Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:34 pm

Good suggestion. It is a 1v1 game and leaving due to bad roll should be further punishable than just receiving autoban.

Rather than making another rule saying cant leave blabla,

I suggest removing the draw timer for ltd 1v1 games. So, if someone leaves after seeing builder, they simply lose the game, lose elo, and get auto banned.
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Re: LTD 1v1 leaving before round (0 elo gain)

Postby uakf.b » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:31 pm

Seems like he was banned. Do we want ELO change no matter what? Currently you need to play two minutes for ELO change to occur.
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Re: LTD 1v1 leaving before round (0 elo gain)

Postby nabo. » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:42 pm

no elo or draw result within 2 minutes is reasonable for team games since there are often instances when 1-2 people do leave either voluntarily or due to dc making the game unfair for the rest.

But in 1v1, its one person vs another and if one leaves, the game is decided. If someone lags out, it is his/her personal technical problem. + If someone leaves just because he/she does not like the tower randoms, they deserve to lose.
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Re: LTD 1v1 leaving before round (0 elo gain)

Postby I_kill_satan » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:51 pm

uakf.b wrote:Seems like he was banned. Do we want ELO change no matter what? Currently you need to play two minutes for ELO change to occur.


@uakf.b

Imo, its critical important only for 1v1 bot - not allow people use this 'opportunity'. If someone with good stay rate will do sometimes like here, he ll avoid the autoban for sure. I agree with @NABO. that LTD 1v1 bot shouldnt have autodraw from moment of picking builder (first seconds).

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Re: LTD 1v1 leaving before round (0 elo gain)

Postby Diablo_ » Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:32 pm

viewtopic.php?f=43&t=21781
viewtopic.php?f=43&t=24233

I thought you fixed this problem twice already, uakf :p
Hope it will work this time ^.^
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Re: LTD 1v1 leaving before round (0 elo gain)

Postby supersexyy » Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:08 pm

Stats should count from 10 seconds in.
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Re: LTD 1v1 leaving before round (0 elo gain)

Postby uakf.b » Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:54 pm

Diablo_ wrote:https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=21781
viewtopic.php?f=43&t=24233

I thought you fixed this problem twice already, uakf :p
Hope it will work this time ^.^

In was fixed, in that if they leave before 1 minute mark they actually get banned, and if you win after 2 minutes then it'll count as ELO.
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Re: LTD 1v1 leaving before round (0 elo gain)

Postby Diablo_ » Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:16 pm

Well, I think all the suggestions (with a full consensus) were about reducing the autodraw timer to 0-10 seconds instead of 1 or 2 minutes or w/e it now is.
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Re: LTD 1v1 leaving before round (0 elo gain)

Postby BeepBoopBeep » Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:39 am

Well after 10 seconds, the ELO change should occur if there's a leaver, the current 2minute leanway gives player's time to decide if there roll/mode is to there liking.

Simply if your not happy with what you've got in the first 2 minute's you can decide to just leave if you get bad rolls you suffer no consequences.

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Re: LTD 1v1 leaving before round (0 elo gain)

Postby Mi Bi Tyu » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:07 pm

BeepBoopBeep wrote:Well after 10 seconds, the ELO change should occur if there's a leaver, the current 2minute leanway gives player's time to decide if there roll/mode is to there liking.

Simply if your not happy with what you've got in the first 2 minute's you can decide to just leave if you get bad rolls you suffer no consequences.

more importantly, you can take a risk on warriors, and only leave if they send them, without losing elo. very ez abuse.

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Re: LTD 1v1 leaving before round (0 elo gain)

Postby I_kill_satan » Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:08 am

I watched replays of high ratinged players and i should say some of them use this - saw bad units or warriors and 'disconnect' the game or just leave. So i should conclude we really need to fix this. Required to register lose after 10 seconds from game start.

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Re: LTD 1v1 leaving before round (0 elo gain)

Postby I_kill_satan » Tue May 06, 2014 11:29 am

Any chances to fix elo change timer? Really tired about sort of this

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Re: LTD 1v1 leaving before round (0 elo gain)

Postby nabo. » Tue May 06, 2014 4:41 pm

@uakf.b Autodraw is in effect only for the first 10 seconds of the game. Possible?
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Re: LTD 1v1 leaving before round (0 elo gain)

Postby Fr4pp3 » Sat May 31, 2014 9:36 am

this is becoming a bad joke - last 4 games I played, 3 quit after leak or bad roll


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