try out new standard mode?

[AllahoeAkbar]

lets makz hpgmcn sd the standard mod and we will improve lihl im thinj

[iightfyre]

Also, remember that creating games with no GG would impact the dynamics more than dissuading suicide incomers. For example, if there is no GG, I would expect a lot more lvl 1 warrior send because you can cripple a team if they leak 40 to king and don't get any gold back. Also, if you make a team leak 50 to king on lvl 7 and they don't die - you don't get any gold as a reward for a well timed send. Same goes for lvl 12, 13, 14 for example; if you send heavy and leak 50+ to the king, you cannot push your lumber during the leak because you will not get gold reimbursement from kill kills.

Just sayin. This mode has more of a dynamic impact on game play than simply minimizing suiciders.

Food for thought.

[supersexyy]

That sounds like a good thing more than a bad thing to me

[BA_Fail]

The game style would be totally different yes, whether that is a good or bad thing depends on what you are looking for. As it is now with incomers and holders, knowledge of how much gold you get doesn't matter, the ability to predict what barely holds doesn't matter, and basically the only thing being rewarded is sending on key levels, just like pubs do.

The gg mode would reward players who can play any type of units since they might need to build them to prevent getting destroyed by warriors, or level 2 send. I am more interested in how we would change our play style for this type of mode. Everybody would be building to hold level 1 2 and 3, which opens up the option to save lumber for 5 or 7. The play style should be similar to the first days of the lihl, The only issue I see is that the people that stay extremely low might actually have an advantage since they aren't losing any value, and the importance of a wisp can be game changing on lvl 7.

All I am asking for is a trial period for this, and maybe vote on it afterwards.

[iightfyre]

Remember also that you can do a different mode if all players agree to it. If you want to try a game or two out simply ask the players in the game if they agree and u can do whatever mode you want.

As far as making a full trial run at it across the whole league - let's wait for some more input on the topic before we make any decision like that just yet.

[dweiler]

It's not going to work BA, because LIHL players are damn conservative. Just for fun, try to get a hybrid game started - it won't work in 90% of the games, because people fear losses and ELO. And being so familiar to -hpgmcb prophet, they don't want to risk their ELO by playing something else.

I would support a more general idea of more freedom in modes. For example: Making the set mode a majority decision instead of a veto right for anyone who wants prophet. Or a variation of Iznogood's old suggestion, in which the number and/or letter of the game hosted define the mode. Like: games ending on 1,4,7 = prophet, 2,5,8 = hybrid, 3,6,9 = sd). You could add some things for no fog, no mm, no hg, etc. (No fog is really fun to play, for those of you who don't know that yet!)

This should help to get rid of the suicide income tactics for at least some of the games as well.

[Krumme]

the no fog thing I agree with ^

[Mi Bi Tyu]

It's not going to work BA, because LIHL players are damn conservative. Just for fun, try to get a hybrid game started - it won't work in 90% of the games, because people fear losses and ELO. And being so familiar to -hpgmcb prophet, they don't want to risk their ELO by playing something else.

I would support a more general idea of more freedom in modes. For example: Making the set mode a majority decision instead of a veto right for anyone who wants prophet. Or a variation of Iznogood's old suggestion, in which the number and/or letter of the game hosted define the mode. Like: games ending on 1,4,7 = prophet, 2,5,8 = hybrid, 3,6,9 = sd). You could add some things for no fog, no mm, no hg, etc. (No fog is really fun to play, for those of you who don't know that yet!)

This should help to get rid of the suicide income tactics for at least some of the games as well.

eh, hybrid is bad mode. better to do hpgcb or hpmmcb. or full gold from leaks to encourage more suicide income would be funny.

[skillerinstinct]

Yes, it's not going to work like this, because all people have to agree with it. So the mode has to be determined for a trial period like one week. IMO we should just make a poll to see, if people are open for such a trial period.

I personally am really tired of this boring yolo stuff...

I still mean -hpmmcb btw. I don't like hybrid or random things like mickey suggested.^^

[AllahoeAkbar]

Gayest mode ever, why not try no fog and make limited income, just take all the fun away now that youre at it.

[Krumme]

again @allahoeakbar I see no arguments - except you think hpgmcb is funnier
no fog IS IMO a good mode as we already have proven in one or two inhouse tournaments (though I think it works better in 2v2)
-li mode is just completely and utterly crap with no future in LIHL
Now I would like you to TRY and make a SERIOUS post for once as that would improve the odds of your voice being heard

[Diablo_]

Archiving.
Feel free to suggest another trial week anytime.