[DOTA] timbersaw@uswest

[banlirudckf]

Your Warcraft III username: basshunter
Violator's Warcraft III username: timbersaw
Game name or map name: latest dota
Stats page link: ?
Rule player violated: ursa
Time of incidents (Note in-game timer or replay timer): 20min
Any further thoughts:
just curious why ursa jumped into my invisible hero at that time...
he said "gem" so confirmed it

[timbersaw]

23 min ; wisp goes by and sees a serpent ward from venomancer - i waited for wisp to initiate then I thought I saw venomancer because I thought wisp had gem ; nothing but pure coincidence that blinked when I did . you can find that basshunter (the poster) fogclicked multiple times during the game so maybe he mh; but yes check my gameplay and check other games i've played ; nothing suspicious to suggest that i maphack beside this one event.

[banlirudckf]

in the 1st place
when i /w timbersaw about this post
he said "i had a vision"
then went out to check the replay
and changed the word "was trying to chase veno"
it means he didnt know i was invisible but saw i was approaching with his hacking toy

he was preparing with "v" and jumped into right on my head then "e"
see what he replied on the game chat
he really wanted to believe wisp got a gem at that point
and self proved he hacked

[banlirudckf]

and idk wtf fog click means
coz i never use hacking shit in my life time

[timbersaw]

He pms me afterwards I tell him I found that he fogclicked in the game

[timbersaw]

in the 1st place
when i /w timbersaw about this post
he said "i had a vision"
then went out to check the replay
and changed the word "was trying to chase veno"
it means he didnt know i was invisible but saw i was approaching with his hacking toy

he was preparing with "v" and jumped into right on my head then "e"
see what he replied on the game chat
he really wanted to believe wisp got a gem at that point
and self proved he hacked

You clearly don't understand english because I told you venomancer was on your team not mine and that his serpent ward attacked wisp ; which led me to blink there. You're trying too hard to ban me just because I found out you maphack ; have a nice day brother.

and idk wtf fog click means
coz i never use hacking shit in my life time

Fogclick is when you click on anything thats inside the fog of war without having vision (which usually means maphack) ; and you did that more than twice. hmm?

[banlirudckf]

that his serpent ward attacked wisp ; which led me to blink there.
u really think this make sense?
stop change ur saying liar

and
ridiculous i did that more than twice
i never accuse some1 for nothing like u

[Sat]

and idk wtf fog click means
coz i never use hacking shit in my life time

Lol'd.

Declined, nothing suspicious happened at 20 minutes, or ever for that matter. No legit fog clicks by timbersaw either.

[aqf]

@Sat I disagree, but my first inclination was also to deny this request. I won't ban for now since you didn't find anything, but someone else needs to confirm at @23:29-@23:35 in the replay that Ursa does indeed blink and chase to an invis Spectre for a good 10 sec before turning around. The serpant ward was no where near Wisp and Ursa didn't even blink close to it. @23:29 right before invis Spectre approaches his location he moves slightly back in the creep spot to lure Spectre close enough for the blink kill, hoping that the invis would run out and he could attack or thinking that wisp would assist him with a gem (it makes no difference). I see no other explanation except that Ursa was maphacking.

@child @nabo.

@timbersaw Post your own ban request if you believe maphacking is taking place. Provide timestamps and we will check the fogclicks. BTW, not all fogclicks are legit.

Also, from @12:10-@12:22 I think both Wisp and Ursa have some "luck" because they apparently know exactly where veno is and sucessfully gank him at the enemy shop. You will note that Ursa leads, but within the half-second that veno comes in to vision Wisp immediately activates his spell. Watch Ursa's movements during this period - he appears to be waiting for someone from mid to come down, but as soon as out of vision Veno heads to the special shop, he changes his position to gank. The timing is impeccable. He even goes back towards mid at 12:18 so that veno doesn't see him.

@23:12 In order to stay out of vision, he moves in closer at the creep location as an out of vision Goblin Shredder approaces.

[child]

clearly either wisp and/or ursa is mhing and im leaning towards ursa

12:15 - yellow is coming out of base, no reason for them to gank him at SS, and ursa even turns back when yellow makes a stutter step - mirroring his movements exactly.

15 mins - seeing as teals allies left him (in fog) they head top to kill teal

21 know teal is alone ez gank (not really solid evidence but still a hint)

22 mins - ursa prolly coulda killed spec or gotten close, but sees allies coming in and promply tps out

23:35 no explanation for this whatsoever, clear mh.

AH and as I expected wisp and ursa on the same ip. https://entgaming.net/bans/game.php?id=3268695
its probably elayseio/romunus and co. again.

@aqf banning ursa and wisp and range banning ips good catch man