Maphackers: GynecoIogist and Bruce_Dee

[uakf.b]

Also I suppose there is the consideration of the tradeoff between the in-game advantage that this third party program can give you and the benefit that we get from allowing the program. In fact, this program may yield little benefit; if a maphacker is banned for fog clicking, they can simply switch to a maphack program that has safeclick capabilities that prevent fog clicks. To the best of our knowledge, safeclick completely nullifies any fog click detector. So, we focus maphacking bans on fog clicks, only those users who are not using safeclick would get banned. Instead, we ought to have a combination of play-based analysis and fog click detection, or our maphacking prevention would be completely useless (because everyone could get away with safeclick then). The way we have decided to do this pretty much is to notice suspicious play in-game and then watch the replay for both fog clicks and to confirm specific suspicious incidents.

So if there is not much benefit yet there is usage of the third-party program then there would not be any reason to lift its restriction. That said, the only way that we know you use a fog click detector is because you were honest about it, and any policy based on honesty doesn't work; although that shouldn't really affect whether or not we allow fog click detectors in the first place, just whether or not we ban for it.

An ingame fogclick program is often the only way to catch maphackers (i.e. it took me 4-5 game of playing with gynecologist to get suspicious that he maphacks and only because my detector went off). If ENT is actually dedicated to ridding itself of maphackers like many of the other bots, it will allow and encourage everyone to use a fogclick detector.

Well tl;dr if we support fog click detector exclusively then maphacking would become MORE prevalent because of simple switch to safeclick programs. If a player doesn't show suspicious activity when they are maphacking, then they can easily use a safeclick program and be undetectable. However this is simply not true, it is always possible to notice behavior; if there is no such behavior then the player is not getting anything out of maphacking.

[uakf.b]

Locking topic. Game moderators can still respond to confirm the original maphack request (if this has not been done so already). And you can respond to these arguments in the complaints section.

[adventureclub]

Banned, confirmed, & moving to processed.