MKB+BURIZA? Is there any clue?

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Re: MKB+BURIZA? Is there any clue?

Postby ForsakeMe » Mon May 05, 2014 4:13 am

memaru wrote:Dude you're like 1710...why do you think you're good?

Did i say that i am so good? Prolly i was in the past, but now im not. I just got an experience with which i wanna share with more weak,new guys and just have a fun. Or problem is are u think that you're so good? if you asking such poitnless quesion, man. No offense.
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Re: MKB+BURIZA? Is there any clue?

Postby ForsakeMe » Mon May 05, 2014 4:15 am

Aghnaar wrote:Idk if this is post a joke or something, but bm is the ultimate pub item, so its kinda ridiculous to think how a pro would counter it. Its the most useless item in the game, it works only vs noobs and only noobs buy it.

Are we talkin about pro-arena? Im talkin about players at entgaming

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Re: MKB+BURIZA? Is there any clue?

Postby Shadows » Mon May 05, 2014 8:59 am

Aghnaar.. u prolly dont understand dota at all. Its not noob item. Everything has it purpose. For example Bm is really good against spells that cannot be stopped by caster and has some time to deal dmg. For example against Gyro (when he cast rocket and ulti, u can go in with bm, cuz he cant stop that). So please learn basics atleast..

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Re: MKB+BURIZA? Is there any clue?

Postby Aghnaar » Mon May 05, 2014 9:41 am

like i said, bm is a pub item. u will never see it on competitive scene. i mean wtf, every time i see an axe buying bm and using call+bm, congrats, ur the king of pubs, u use bm to return damage when u have 60 armor and u actually get no damage from attacks. bm's purpose is to own noobs, just like dagon. buy bm or dagon vs skilled opponents and u just have wasted 2k gold that would help u win if u invested them in real items. Ofc ppl that buy bm on bristle or spec can't understand this, so its ok, keep wasting ur money.
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Re: MKB+BURIZA? Is there any clue?

Postby ForsakeMe » Mon May 05, 2014 9:57 am

Aghnaar, man, there is no talkin about professional players...If u have played dota 2, u wud see there that a lot of pro players cannot win at pub as they do with their teams at pro-arena. Cuz cm 5x5 with ur own team it is absolutly an another game, please dont compare it with that we do. Anyway bm is a nice item even for against pro teams., it is actually has it purpose. Your point in some degree has a clue though, but i dont agree with dat.

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Re: MKB+BURIZA? Is there any clue?

Postby memaru » Mon May 05, 2014 2:40 pm

ForsakeMe wrote:
memaru wrote:Dude you're like 1710...why do you think you're good?

Did i say that i am so good? Prolly i was in the past, but now im not. I just got an experience with which i wanna share with more weak,new guys and just have a fun. Or problem is are u think that you're so good? if you asking such poitnless quesion, man. No offense.
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Buddy you're here ranting about how people's item builds suck and trying to start a twitch stream for dota 1 pubs. If it's not explicitly stated there sure seems to be some sort of underlying implication that you think you're better. The fact that you think other people are "weak" does heavily suggest that you think you're better. I looked at your games and you have weak fundamentals that you need to correct before you should even consider teaching people the game. For example, just looking at your last hits I can tell that you have major problems with your laning abilities. This game for example https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=3340308 is 40 minutes long and you have 100 last hits to your name which is pretty much unacceptable. There are 82 creeps by 10 minutes which you should get 70/82 and yet at 40 minutes you only have 100? Watching some of your random replays I already know that you have no concept of lane equilibrium.

I don't have a problem thinking that I am good, because I am good. The only person better than me is probably only Soju.

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Regarding the topic of item choices. Blademail is definitely a legit item, even among pros. When a tinker defends a base with march of machines, blademail is a legit item used to counter. Furthermore, dagon is a snowballing item. A lot of pros even till today still get dagon on nerubian assassin or puck if given the opportunity. Item choices is not about mimicking what pros does, but what is optimal for the situation. If your opponents are pubs that don't know how to deal with dagon and blademail, there's no reason not to get it.

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Re: MKB+BURIZA? Is there any clue?

Postby ForsakeMe » Mon May 05, 2014 3:12 pm

Man, dont try to remake my replies. Imma guess ur clearly understand what i mean, when i said "weak players and criticized item builds".It is for newbie or weak(who play rarely) players.if you dont consist yourself to this players or not arguing the problem, what are you doing at this topic, then? Im pretty sure u knew that, u just kind of people who wanna show off with a trash talk. About last hit. Do u know how far am i from ent bots location? My average ping is close to 200ms, there is a point why i dont try to focus on last hits, cuz i cannot handle it in such delays, instead of it im just tryna have fun. The only reason why you think that you are too good js a weak competition here among high-level players. Bun anyway, even if you watched my replays, while i even havent look at your stats.Did i so dazzle you?

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Postby memaru » Mon May 05, 2014 6:01 pm

Not sure what you mean by remaking your replies. But the point of my argument is that there's no point for you to call out weaker players if you're not even a good player yourself. You think you're being noble by trying to increase the skill level of pubs. The reality is that you don't have the credentials to even lecture newbie players who rarely play. I substantiate this point, by showing you that your basic fundamental grasp of the game is severely lacking and there's no need for you to pontificate your superb skills.

Regarding your ping issues, 200 ms is your fault. There are hosts like icCup that would give you a better ping and have better players, but you choose to come here and "dazzle" us.

I'm absolutely not dazzled. I'm frazzled by the Dunning-Kruger that is going on. Your play as I stated before is atrocious. Even beginners like Brock or jager. play better than you. Even if I disregard last hitting, your concept of lane equilibrium, lane control, rune control, map awareness, space creation and decision-making are pretty subpar.

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Re: MKB+BURIZA? Is there any clue?

Postby ForsakeMe » Tue May 06, 2014 3:39 am

Memaru, u even dont wanna listen me... I guess i could chosse where i want play, or not? I play there as well, but rarerly. Did i complain you about my ping? I just tried to explain why i dont try to focus on last hit due to high ping, nuthin more. Man, i love critizism but only crtizism which based on sense. Anyway, i looked up at ur matchlist, nuthin interesting a lot of easy mode with meppo against players who much weaker than you. Easy mode= 6 slots meppo at 30 min, then? If u will do it at cm-mode against strong teams like at iccup, i will be appreciated, but till sorry... and if you talked about
iccup, there are like your meppo, 200-300 or more and much stronger players play at meppo and they do it against players who around their elo. About equilibrium, i have a job, friends, etc. should i care about this? As i said before, who wants let me know, im not forcing anyone. Looking for equlibrium i also left for you, man. Gl

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Postby Frank » Tue May 06, 2014 4:09 am

This thread gave me cancer.

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Postby coldfire786 » Tue May 06, 2014 4:46 am

Frank wrote:This thread gave me cancer.

this frank is too good for dota
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Postby ForsakeMe » Tue May 06, 2014 6:31 am

Memaru, Did you say are you too good? Look at these guys, and its only a few of them. And there were much better players but they stopped play.

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Re: MKB+BURIZA? Is there any clue?

Postby nabo. » Tue May 06, 2014 6:42 am

Stop this childish bickering. This topic has gone too off topic.

1v1 idc who is better. Dota is a team game. We r not pros playing for money. Therefore, all that matters is that you have fun. You can have fun in a pond and in a lake. Dota to us is a game afterall.

If this topic has dwindled ur prides, take it to the court yard and have a cat fight.

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Re: MKB+BURIZA? Is there any clue?

Postby greenmtn » Wed May 07, 2014 3:41 pm

nabo. wrote:Stop this childish bickering. This topic has gone too off topic.

1v1 idc who is better. Dota is a team game. We r not pros playing for money. Therefore, all that matters is that you have fun. You can have fun in a pond and in a lake. Dota to us is a game afterall.

If this topic has dwindled ur prides, take it to the court yard and have a cat fight.

@bouncinghitman archive plz


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Re: MKB+BURIZA? Is there any clue?

Postby ipwnipwn » Thu May 15, 2014 7:50 pm

damn you kids talk alot.... wc3 and ent dota dead anyway... only game mode that fills is em, who cares, playing em all day yall never gonna learn shit..
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