What would you say is the most complicated race in ID?

[daesba]

And dont even bring up sat. Let's leave him outa this unless we got a damn good reason. I think all there is to sat is wall walking and good judgement.

My vote for most complicated is Draenei.

[Phosphia]

Excuse me but how is that builder complicated at all?

I'd say proper use of Demon or Nature.

[daesba]

I started playing ID way before draenei came out and for me its the most complicated cuz I have the least experience with it. I took a long break and came back to ID now theres Hunt/Draenei/and others i had never played so theyre very new to me. Panda had been out like 2 weeks when i quit came back like idk 2 yrs later

[Merex]

Correction: Draenei is the most complicated builder for you.
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I'd say the Offensive side of Nature.

[daesba]

A while back I'd see offensive Nature all the time like it was the only way to play him. Now I hardly see anyone willing pick him and when they do they die/ base after first minion or two. I see so many Nature's die...

So many...

But anyway, is this due to a nerf in offensive Nature's at some point or is it just our player base right now?

This is just based off my experience with the game recently so far after ~120 games in a week or so.

[Burn]

Radioactive

1) The hardest thing about Radio is micro-ing your hunter whilst you sheep tag wall walk + deto wotw
2) Knowing what gold towers you should upgrade, magic/rapid
3) Radio start
4) Best golder if played right
5) Incredibly hard to kill if played right
6) Heaviest micro builder

-Burn

[Neco]

Demonologist.

Hardly anyone even knows about half the stuff he can do, and most of it is triggered behind the scenes (has the most triggers out of all the defenders).

Proof:
No one ever reports bugs about the Demonic Fiend, even though it's riddled with them... and it's been like 2 years.

[Coolty44]

I'm going with offensive Nat. It used to be a really popular way to play, and way back when Mag was the "hardest" class, you'd always see an offensive Nat, it was just too good. And then classes like Demon started getting added and nobody wanted to go through the hassle anymore. Why spend so much time training an army when you can just summon them? I bet if you asked anyone playing today they'd have no idea that Nat was able to be offensive.

[TimmyTheTauren]

No one ever reports bugs about the Demonic Fiend, even though it's riddled with them... and it's been like 2 years.

Honestly fiend is a waste of 100 food. No demo is willing to give up 2/3 of its income to have a generally useless unit.

[aRt)Y]

I do it in the late game. The wall and spells is more worth than two shitty wooders when you've 10k.

[ApomTom]

No one ever reports bugs about the Demonic Fiend, even though it's riddled with them... and it's been like 2 years.

Because the only player in the entire community who uses Demonic Fiends plays once a year.

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I do it in the late game. The wall and spells is more worth than two shitty wooders when you've 10k.

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[Burn]

Demonic fiend is good, basically only because of the OP wall. It's insta-summon, instantly blocking the titan in, or delaying the titan for another wall. I only get it after teh wall.

-Burn