Rule Change

[aRt)Y]

You are supposed to ff because the enemy is fountain farming - not because you are losing.
However, you describe it exactly as such.

The rule only applies if the enemies are fountain farming you; which means you can't do anything but stay at your fountain anyway.

[tepabo-et-tupu]

i think these rules coherent... . In the other way, when your mates are sucking because of bad dradft or noobs, it's boring for them to wait for one guy who had a better draft but who will be unable to do anything alone ... . SGN apply other rules in which it's forbidden to attempt a fountain farm ... . I prefer ent rules for my part ...

[VirusHunter]

can i pose a hypothetical situation here.
ok so say someone on your team is "afk" they move every now and then to avoid being afk kicked. then opposing team fountain farms. and they have the capabilities to either A: kill you as soon as you spawn, or B: get you from a distance or are able to pull you out of the fountain.
now you obviously try to VK but the opposing team doesnt kick. and he wont leave or ff so you cant do anything about your situation. so now you can just sit there for as long as your hearts desire fountain farming and buffing your "stats". also note that the ones being farmed, their stats are being heavily diminished in this situation.
that being said..
i know you will probably ban them for not votekicking. but will you also stats wipe? or void that game and no one gains or loses stats?

if i didnt say what i meant in this clearly im sorry but i do hope you understand what im trying to say.

[EdgeOfChaos]

can i pose a hypothetical situation here.
ok so say someone on your team is "afk" they move every now and then to avoid being afk kicked. then opposing team fountain farms. and they have the capabilities to either A: kill you as soon as you spawn, or B: get you from a distance or are able to pull you out of the fountain.
now you obviously try to VK but the opposing team doesnt kick. and he wont leave or ff so you cant do anything about your situation. so now you can just sit there for as long as your hearts desire fountain farming and buffing your "stats". also note that the ones being farmed, their stats are being heavily diminished in this situation.
that being said..
i know you will probably ban them for not votekicking. but will you also stats wipe? or void that game and no one gains or loses stats?

if i didnt say what i meant in this clearly im sorry but i do hope you understand what im trying to say.

We don't do stat wipes, and who cares about kills anyways? In Void, kills are what you're scored by, not wins so that's why they clear them.

[VirusHunter]

i care about kills >.>. k/d is only thing i actually do care about. and you do, do stats wipes. you stat wipe for MH'ers dont you? (unless thats changed, you would know that). still, there are people, lots of people, who care about stats (k/d) and if i were in that situation i stated before i would really really not appreciate having that game on my record.
if were not supposed to care about k/d then why give us that stat at all? just show win/loss and elo if thats the case.

[aRt)Y]

We dont wipe their stats because we think they used maphack to gain 10K elo but to punish them because elo means something to them.

[ForsakeMe]

Elo means something and even more! It is the same like to say money means nothing. And when people say like i am smart or something, i ask them if you are so smart ,why are you so poor? So here is also the same shit, however there are a lot of ways to gain your elo as it releated to money. So there is another question, how did you gain ur elo? By boosting,stacking or with ur own efforts.
Or some people say like we are not playing for elo, win. So why are you playin for? Thats sounds hilarious, need more clarity? If you dont wanna win, improve, and make this game more entertiment.(which elo implies). You're just wasting ur own time for nothing.-" i dont play for elo" Only "smart" people can say this, but thats ok.
Regards.
- ForsakeMe

[VirusHunter]

@art)y yes I understand what your saying for the stats wipe on mh'ers. Im talking game specific stats wipe.
Idk if that question was directed at me @Forsakeme ?
But if it was then its mostly in part of my own efforts through out the time Ive been on ent.
Again I reiterate this is one game specific..

[aRt)Y]

What do you mean by game specific stats wipes? They shouldn't differ to the "normal" ones as they are only for the punishment or rule violations/illegal actions.
Elaborate or give a scenario, please

[VirusHunter]

can i pose a hypothetical situation here.
ok so say someone on your team is "afk" they move every now and then to avoid being afk kicked. then opposing team fountain farms. and they have the capabilities to either A: kill you as soon as you spawn, or B: get you from a distance or are able to pull you out of the fountain.
now you obviously try to VK but the opposing team doesnt kick. and he wont leave or ff so you cant do anything about your situation. so now you can just sit there for as long as your hearts desire fountain farming and buffing your "stats". also note that the ones being farmed, their stats are being heavily diminished in this situation.
that being said..
i know you will probably ban them for not votekicking. but will you also stats wipe? or void that game and no one gains or loses stats?

if i didnt say what i meant in this clearly im sorry but i do hope you understand what im trying to say.

@art)y this is my scenario i already posted.
being game specific i was saying that in the rare occurrence this happens would you clear this games stats.
if the above mentioned scenario takes place it could go on forever and people could go 100/0 in 1 game. grossly buffing their average. further more what if the guy who didnt !ff was a plant and no real way to prove he was.

if this is all tldr for you then this is my point. there is opportunity for abusing this new rule for the benefit of better stats. this has little or nothing to do with elo. strickly kdr.

[EdgeOfChaos]

i care about kills >.>. k/d is only thing i actually do care about. and you do, do stats wipes. you stat wipe for MH'ers dont you? (unless thats changed, you would know that). still, there are people, lots of people, who care about stats (k/d) and if i were in that situation i stated before i would really really not appreciate having that game on my record.
if were not supposed to care about k/d then why give us that stat at all? just show win/loss and elo if thats the case.

You aren't scored based on kd, so wiping someone's stats based on farm would be silly. Anyways, they wouldn't have even violated a rule, so we wouldn't punish them.