HISTORY IN THE MAKING

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Re: HISTORY IN THE MAKING

Postby archol » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:50 pm

Many ways to beat cross (im facing a lot of good crossers at public games) - problematic will be merc, this make it nearly impossible to win before 31 if played right

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Re: HISTORY IN THE MAKING

Postby misspelled_email » Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:03 am

Those cross "defenders".
1st.: With cross you always can hold lvl 7 and send 2x harder than solos where solos can only send on lvl7 if they have immo(because they'd die vs cross sends with any other ability, unless up king), either way they lose tons of golds.
2nd.: You can only beat cross if u got 4x archer soloers or something like that. Though it still won't be that easy.
3rd.: No matter what "crap roll" units u get u can just buy wisps. And the better units can do value, thus 2 good rolls in team means 7/7-10 to whole team at lvl 10 without possibility to leak. Where soloers can never hold waves with those lumbers.
4th.: If solos "yolo" and for example someone is "holder". The holder starts getting 0 bounty in no time. Moreover, never gets 100% gold from leaks. While if cross 1 side goes "yolo" other "holder". It gets many waves for 100% gold, and only then the bounty starts slowly decreasing from leaks.

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Re: HISTORY IN THE MAKING

Postby bit » Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:13 pm

that's where you are wrong hugmeonce, but you got too much ego. so instead of ignoring the obvious truth, like you usually do, you are dancing on a dead's man grave. beyond's right at all 4 points.

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Re: HISTORY IN THE MAKING

Postby archol » Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:35 am

1-2 no, 3-4 yes

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Re: HISTORY IN THE MAKING

Postby godlik3 » Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:55 pm

ViolentlyHappy wrote:Do you guys know what "meta game" means? It means finding a new style / strategy of play within the game that gets quickly adopted a all justs the way to play the game until a new style / strategy arises to completely counter / crush the old meta. Currently cross is the meta and you're whinging about how OP it is. There ARE strategies to beat cross, there ARE HUGE weaknesses to cross, and it is not a walk in the park that you make it all sound like. So what if cross holds 2/4 waves when you send, they get left with a tiny army that doesn't stand a chance against the 2nd wave and gets completely crushed and almost 2 full waves leaking to king with demons is pretty GG.

Cross in pub is OP exactly because people in pub don't know how to counter it. The only hope lies in LIHL people, I know very well how to beat cross and have done so quite a few times. Come on LIHL, show us your "skills"



U realize cross is not new?
do u realize who invented cross were LIHL players from season 1?
do u realize that cross is so ez that mods had to change for solo games after season 1 to get more skill and competitive games since all games goes to 31 if good crossers against good crossers?
Do you realize that all strategies on LTD r invented by lihl players and u pubbers just coppy it?
@ViolentlyHappy u should learn some about the old school players instead of talking s**t
@hugmeonce ....once this season overs we will play against u=) 10 days left and a lot of ppl fighitng to #1 so i dont think anyone will play now since all is trying to win that season!

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Re: HISTORY IN THE MAKING

Postby Hutzu » Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:58 pm

@godlik3

The challenge format is crap for you guys. 5 normal prophet games is way better. At no point of previous smack-talking hybrid was even mentioned, as far as I know. Those games #2 and #4 are sure losses if you guys solo. Yolo relies on knowledge of towers and you cannot use your knowledge if you don't know what you got.
Either change the format of the challenge or accept that you guys have to cross too. Imo change the format. Otherwise you are basically playing a Best of 5 and you need to win all prophet games, because they are basically leading 2-0 thanks to the hybrid games.

If you want to mix it up, then do some fun stuff in it. 1 game where team godlike has to play cross and team hugmeonce has to solo (aura swap if you want). 1 game -ap or -sdgmcb. But if you accept hybird, godlik3, better train your cross and be prepared for the argument "They had to cross in order to win. Their lihl style wasn't good enough.", in case you win. You cannot expect to win 3 out of 3 prophet games, when they have 8 rolls (4 initial and 4 re-rolls) to get archers.

Just for you. There are 14 races (besides Merc, Prophet and Hybrid). So the chances of them to get AT LEAST archers once in one game is like this:
100 - (13/14)^8 * 100 = 44.7258% (Please don't make me explain this)
This % presents the chance that at least one of them gets archers in a game with 1 re-roll used. You are better than them, but you cannot expect to win against such odds (2-0 lead for them with only win needed and they will get archers in probably 2 out of 3 games). You are better, but not that much better.

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Re: HISTORY IN THE MAKING

Postby Qvist » Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:01 pm

Ok guys...

Cross is broken yes but chill man! If 4 LIHL players can't beat a freaking cross what the fuck is going on then?

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Re: HISTORY IN THE MAKING

Postby Akitos » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:00 pm

It's the end of the world guys! Time to panic!

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Re: HISTORY IN THE MAKING

Postby I_kill_satan » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:22 am

history is continuing - look dat korean dreamteam nics, currently #1 elo tho: "makeithappen", "alreadyhistory" :lol: :lol: :lol:
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