About SS and MH

[elektro]

Hello..
since its late and the bots on lihl dont work, i decided to see more unvouched request/bans. I saw there some ban requests for MH. Well, i used to be good recognising a MH. I used to be an awesome DotA player, (now i quitted for playing legion td), and i used to be admin On Garena. What i can tell u, u cant just recognize a MH-er by making him do some print screens because i know that u can switch off and on the MH with 1 key.. i noticed that when i asked some player for SS and there was all ok, but when i checked the replay, there was fogclick and some odd facts, thats showed me they use MH.
What i ask is.. is there any comand for a lihl mod to make a ss to a player without him knowing ?? if yes, that work, if no, everyone can switch off mh in 1 second before doing those SS.
I more question. I saw the players that did SS, couldnt find the SS .. well, what i am asking is, in order to give a SS is ok to press print key on keyboard, then CTRL+v in paint then save then uploading it to a site or smth (like www.tinypic.com) ?? Thats the only way i know i can give a SS.
If there is another way, please enlight me

[MichaelSong]

Hello. Elektro! ^^

I will answer your questions as far as I know.

First, I didn't know there was a MH with key which can turn on and turn off whenever you want to do so. And, we do not allow players to unpause untill all players give their screenshots while pausing. This might be reason for preventing that turning off mh. ( if you unpause without consent of LIHL mod for any reason, you might be suspected as using MH since it is interpreted as very suspicious move. I will give you link of SS test : http://wiki.entgaming.net/index.php?title=EntG ... _.26_Rules )

Second, we usually use the way you described in the post. ( press print key on keyboard - CRTL+V - posting on forum or giving PM to LIHL Mod ) In whatever way, we have to get proof which are related to Minimap of the paused moment, which could be analyzed as Mhing or Non-Mhing.

Third, there is no secret method to screenshot personal gaming moment, unless they're streaming or using program such as Teamviewer.

This is far as I know, otherwise ohter mods could add up their opinions additionally or fix may as well.
I hope this answers should satisfy your curiosity enough.

If you have good suggestions, please let us know.

[godlik3]

there is a key that u can turn on and off yes....but once u turned on the mh and see the units on the other team, if u turn it off, it will still appearing on ur mini map....its like after arena that the map shows the another team units!

[supersexyy]

Yep, your minimap will be different.

[elektro]

godlike, u may be right but i am not sure, because in dota u always have same buildings and you play only with a hero. in legion td your army grows and grows and it is seen as buildings, so, i cant say if u are right or wrong. i didnt actualized my knowledge about mh lately, i didnt knew there is people so deperate to win in LTD in order to use third party programs. i Know only thats mh has updates,

[Diablo_]

Screenshot tests do work to detect mh the way we use them

Regarding how to send the screenshot, read here: http://wiki.entgaming.net/index.php?title=EntG ... _.26_Rules
You simply press print key and that will create a high quality screenshot saved in your wc3 directory. And that file you send us (the format is .tga) via pm by attaching it, not one copied into paint.

[aRt)Y]

@elektro It's somewhat interesting that you suggest/question a method while not knowing much about it. Anyway, even in DotA, towers and buildings will be destroyed. That alone is enough to proof a mini map change.

[elektro]

thats what i was asking. about your method catchig cheaters. Because a good version of MH could easily dodge a normal SS test. Besides, i think the Lihl mods knows better about that, since LIHL is only able to make SS tests.

[Diablo_]

As we said, screenshot tests work perfectly fine (if done correctly), archiving