[LTD] BtchSlap @ europe.battle.net

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[LTD] BtchSlap @ europe.battle.net

Postby Spzi » Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:57 pm

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/customstats/legio ... e/5375785/
Game Name: [ENT] Legion TD Mega euro #94
Your Warcraft III Username: Spzi
Violator's Warcraft III Username: BtchSlap
Violated Rule(s): Flaming, Refusing to cooperate when asked to do so several times by sending alone and not save-send with teammates to win.

Time of Violation (in-game or replay):
Flaming: Replay min 25-27, min 35, min 68-71

Sending alone: Replay min 58: "send 28" was called before, nothing else was said.
BtchSlap startet by sending a demon for 27, was reminded to save for 28.
Added a kraken and two warlocks, was reminded to play team.
Added another warlock, and another kraken.

Replay min 63: BtchSlap starts sending shamans alone for 29, is called to stop it. Asked to save and play team.
Adds three more shaman regardless.

Any further thoughts: Our send @ 28 made the other team leak and use heals. We might have won if we had combined our efforts.
BtchSlap effectively strayed from the team at level 27 by sending alone for level 27 and 29. Our sends for 28 and 31 were respectively weaker, and we lost the game.
Regarding this user's ban history, flaming seems to be reoccuring.

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Re: [LTD] BtchSlap @ europe.battle.net

Postby BtchSlap » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:01 am

Is thiy guy kidding me? first ruining my build then blame me for the loss? that team had nearly no communication, i asked for save straight 27, no response, noone told to send 28. just look chat up, its not much to do. i send for inc because it was totally clear that this game would have gone over 31. i was best player in team, and should get banned now for team killing? ridicioulus. most of the responsibility for that loss is on spzi, because he wont listen to his valuer, and his build causes my units several times to split, what leaded to the final split/loss on 31. thx spzi, u rly bad loser.

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Re: [LTD] BtchSlap @ europe.battle.net

Postby Spzi » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:42 am

I didn't blame you for the loss. Just for sending alone. It's hard to tell now what would have happened if you had played team with us, but the point in this board is if it's against the rules or not. There are no bans for losing games, there are bans for breaking rules.
Now that you mention it, I read the log again, and saw "(47:42 / Allied) BtchSlap: id say straight 27", which I missed before. The other two might have missed it, too, as they didn't respond or follow. On contrary, you've been called several times to send in team, which you simply ignored and continued to send alone. It's also hard to believe you sent for inc as you sent low income-efficient units like shaman.
Yes it's true that I forgot to sell the block directly after 10, but it was quickly removed then. Shit happens, sorry. I don't see how something happening shortly after 10 could be the single cause for something happening at 31.

All the talk about reasons aside, this thread is just about violated rules.

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Re: [LTD] BtchSlap @ europe.battle.net

Postby MichaelSong » Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:05 pm

Spzi wrote:but the point in this board is if it's against the rules or not.


Yes you're right. But want to say situation must be involved in judging as well. That is reason why GM is reviewing chat and seeing replay.

Spzi wrote:Now that you mention it, I read the log again, and saw "(47:42 / Allied) BtchSlap: id say straight 27", which I missed before. The other two might have missed it, too, as they didn't respond or follow.


If you see this ban request point of view of BtchSlap, you could be also blamed for not communicating as well. Since, he could have been thought he was ignored.

There is rule which could be mentioned in this case
LTD Rules

  • Refusing to cooperate when asked to do so several times by sending alone and not save-send with teammates to win.

But In my perspective, He(BtchSlap) couldn't be seen as violated this rule since he did well pre 20.

In regard of flame, flame usually happen. Punishment would be decided by GM's standard.
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Re: [LTD] BtchSlap @ europe.battle.net

Postby SLSGuennter » Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:50 am

not banning for the "non-cooperation" since (imo) this just was misscommunication.

this was minor flaming, and i most likely would not ban for this, but he already got banned for his manners before, so ill set an other 12hours ban.
btchslap@europe banned 12 hours for bad manners.

processing.

Edit: did edit the "12 days" to "12 hours" ... bantime was 12 hours, i just wrote it wrong here.
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