Dota v6.83 beta by IceFrog

[F-Train]

Well guess what, burning spears + frostmourne + fury swipes + geostrike + skadi + mask + diffusal + orb of venom all stack together in lod. that means it is possible.

Prob because they are no longer "orbs".....

imba as fk tho.

[nabo.]

Updated beta is out: http://www.getdota.com/

Attached file.

[Sillmarillion]

Is there a written changelog somewhere?

[fck_gooks]

So, you want to play a game with bad balancing. Ok.

If the public really likes em, we can make current version stay em and new version non-em.

I am fine with that. But, thinking run-long, if you want the overall quality of games to be higher with better players, hosting only non-em is a good idea.

I think that the best way (if not the only way) to test your theory is to just change em and non em to the new map and see what happens.

If the new map is trully that bad and unbalanced, players will naturally gravitate to non em, and you will be proven right.

If the players keep playing em more, than the answer is clear, keep both with the new map.

Having just a topic here is less effective, as not everyone has a forum account, or they don't visit often enough, or they don't read every topic, just come for brq and appeals.

My prediction, if both maps get changed, is that you will get people complaining and making suggestions to change the map back to the one it is now. Not because it is better or worse, but because dota 1 players don't like change (example: they probably played dota 2 once or twice, realised it is not exactly the same and didn't give it a real chance and went back). This is exactly what happend to the last map that had alot of changes, the one where voker got 2 spells at lvl 1 invoke.

[nabo.]

@uakf.b

Can you autohost the beta2 map on non-em games for now?

[abi]

https://twitter.com/icefrog_weibo/statu ... 0998852608

6.83c is finally out, please update the map

[nabo.]

@uakf.b

http://www.getdota.com/

New version on non-em plz.

No full changelog available yet.

[uakf.b]

Should be hosted on non-em.

[ForsakeMe]

Please host it on non-em Europe bot.

[F-Train]

@uakf.b
currently hosting on
Gamename: [ENT] DotA ap us/ca #1
Bot name: ENT5
Gamename: [ENT] DotA ar us/ca #1
Bot name: ENT10
Gamename: [ENT] DotA sd us/ca #1
Bot name: ENT8

please also host on
Gamename: [ENT] DotA ap euro #82
Bot name: ENT91
Gamename: [ENT] DotA ar euro #4
Bot name: ENT93
Gamename: [ENT] DotA sd euro #2
Bot name: ENT94

also consider my suggestion for -shar mode

thanks

[CuandoQuieras]

Please host on euro too! Thank you

[uakf.b]

@CuandoQuieras @F-Train done

[nabo.]

@uakf.b

I honestly want to remove -em all together for ENT. I believe that non-em games will help to improve the quality of DotA games overall. At the same time, I am afraid we may lose players to other bots.

Most or a lot of the decent dota1 players understand that non-em is the real dota mode where mechanics and hero balance is more reasonable compared to -em where certain heroes are too "op" due to free gold incomes and early available items without actually needing to farm properly.

Decisions yours.

[Hatedmaru]

@nabo. Even though i can agree with most of what you said, i'd maybe suggest to do it gradually: Don't remove it all at once, start removing one by one and see how community reacts to it before advancing to the next one (I also have the idea we may lose players due to the removal of -em)

[nabo.]

@hyorinmaru.

How do we remove gradually?