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To the next LTD Tournament

Postby cyberpunk » Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:41 am

What modes we should make to the next tournament?

Imho -hphgggmmcbx3 with prophet is close to the balance. Though some players disagree, they complain about merce they says the builder is op. The funny thing is merce didn't win the tournament.

I think we could try hybrid? or maybe draft?! or the same modes?
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Re: To the next LTD Tournament

Postby OniX » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:59 am

I propose the mode -hpgm (=-hpmmhggg) prophet, without the -cb (-cb = Change Builder = Reroll).

If you have good units, it will be easy for you, if you have shit units, then it will be necessary to know how to manage between the income and thevalue ;).

Mode that for pros :).

Or with Hybrid, but in it's really random, but there is a big part of tactics to manage well the income/value.

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Re: To the next LTD Tournament

Postby cyberpunk » Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:50 pm

The reason to have -cb is to balanced.
If a guy leak 50%, could be the end for him.
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Re: To the next LTD Tournament

Postby cyberpunk » Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:25 pm

His teammate couldn't handle it later, gets worse each send. Remember we are talking about tourney, not a pub game when you get randoms sends
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Re: To the next LTD Tournament

Postby OniX » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:44 pm

If a player participates in the tournament, normally he should be good to Legion TD Mega, then why he leak? For example I if I have only shit units, then my income will be lower, yes, but my value will be of the blow more important, everything is a question of tactics and calculations ^^.

Personally I have already reached the lvl 30 without leak, I ended in ~800 income and one value by ~18 000 with only tuskar + bigfoot because the other units were shit^^.
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Re: To the next LTD Tournament

Postby Desinity » Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:31 am

I'm new to this forum,but as I saw the thread about the next LTD tourney some questions came to my mind.

It looks like the tourney will be played with vesion 3.41. Why not 3.5 beta which is out since ages?

You want to chose -hp as mainmode? Why a totally luck-depending mode (same goes for hybrid)?
I would suggest -sdmmhgggcb ,which means you have to be good with every race but you're not forced to play prophet.

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Re: To the next LTD Tournament

Postby 2mad2care » Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:39 pm

First of all, I'm very excited to hear that you are planning another LTD Tournament. Thumbs up! Although I do not have a lot of experience playing LTD in a competetive tournament environment, I disagree with most of the comments above.

I would love to play -hphgggmmcbx3 with hybrid or -hphgggmmcbx3 with prophet (maybe ban mercenary). I do not believe it is luckdependant at all; Infact, I think it creates a more complex gameplay that requires more strategic thinking and teamplay. In other words, I believe these are the most balanced modes. Personally, I don't like mercenary. I think the strategies that involves mercenary would be superior in a competetive tournament environment, but I would like to hear some other opinions from those that play it on a more regular basis. (e.g FistinAnus that tends to reroll mercenary and win every time)

I do not think that removing -cb would balance the gameplay and make it more competetive in nature. Quite the contrary, it would be like rolling the dice. I think that the mechanics of changing builder adds more complexity to the game, as it basicly adds more important choices to make both on a individual and team level.

Someone else suggest playing -sdmmhgggcb. Even though it requires skills to be able to play with every race, I think it requires more skills to be able to play with prophet as it requires more indepth-knowledge of which towers actually work together.

Overall, I do not really care about which mode is chosen. I'm just excited to participate. So if anyone needs a teammate, send me a message :)

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Re: To the next LTD Tournament

Postby Frostor » Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:21 pm

I think hybrid would be the most fun.
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Postby Ultimate_aMaYa » Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:49 pm

I vote for the mode we had in the previous tournament :

-hpmmhgggcbx3 prophet

About what you're talking about :
-hpgm ? = screw completly the variety of units u could get, or a player who dislike his prophet = I don't like it.
-hpmmhgggcbx3 hybrid ? = the complete random/scrambling system is actually more luck at some point than skill placement (for example you build tier 6 in front and u get dark priest ... happy ? deal with it ? = screw placement strategy IMO
-ban mercenary from tourny ? I would say yes xD this builder is too op, even if you can't build after level 30, I don't think there is 1 tourny game that will end at this level :P

Btw I will play the tourny if I can (depends on real life :D) whatever the mode is ;)

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Re: To the next LTD Tournament

Postby autocrat » Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:27 pm

I think Prophet,hphgggmmcbx3 is the best.
also, i think Merce is OP
but, i dont care about that.
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Re: To the next LTD Tournament

Postby cyberpunk » Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:40 pm

Ultimate_aMaYa wrote:About what you're talking about :
-hpgm ? = screw completly the variety of units u could get, or a player who dislike his prophet = I don't like it.
Good point
Ultimate_aMaYa wrote:-hpmmhgggcbx3 hybrid ? = the complete random/scrambling system is actually more luck at some point than skill placement (for example you build tier 6 in front and u get dark priest ... happy ? deal with it ? = screw placement strategy IMO
Lol, so do not try a tier 6 in front =D I am impartial here, I don't think hybrid too bad, because sometimes you should use your brain. a good example is sniper you can up him to zeus or to flame, also druid.. go to sword mage or ascendant.. etc..
Ultimate_aMaYa wrote:-ban mercenary from tourny ? I would say yes xD this builder is too op, even if you can't build after level 30, I don't think there is 1 tourny game that will end at this level :P
I didn't check all games we had on the last tourney, as far as I know only 1 player used merce and he didn't win the tourney. So if you are reading this and if the tourney modes allow you to merce, so pls go merce and win this tourney!! I really wanna watch this!!!

Ultimate_aMaYa wrote:Btw I will play the tourny if I can (depends on real life :D) whatever the mode is ;)
Gimme your address pls? gonna send to you a gift *cost 1500 wood* before my team plays with you again :3
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Re: To the next LTD Tournament

Postby BA_Fail » Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:46 pm

Recently people have been going into merc as early as level 6. The problem with this is the potential to save lumber and still hold each level. These guys can save their lumber from lvl 5 and send on level 17. 2 or 3 mercs would be able to send over 10k worth of sends with the help of their team. I'm ok with people going into merc after level 10 because that is usually due to mistakes or a bad builder, in which case they will be useless to the team unless they merc.

Regardless of what happens, I don't care what mode (HP elemental would be hilarious). Luckily people are doing it now, so everyone is prepared for what can happen.

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Re: To the next LTD Tournament

Postby HateLose » Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:53 pm

I think hpgmcb would be fine (prophet), however if you can ban merc, that would be even better. As ltd players, if you are planning to enter the tourney, you should know the fundamentals of the game. That being said, all players should be able to use the towers (plus re-rolls) they get with prophet to their maximum potential. Most people should expect what lvls to get summons/sends and prepare.

Unlike what some have said.....even PROS leak in this game.

OniX wrote: Personally I have already reached the lvl 30 without leak, I ended in ~800 income and one value by ~18 000 with only tuskar + bigfoot because the other units were shit^^.

Not saying i don't believe you, but I would love to see this.....this build with that much income. I can see a lot of lvls you would fail vs good players.
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Re: To the next LTD Tournament

Postby supersexyy » Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:52 pm

If you've leaked enough that you need to merc, then you deserve to be screwed anyway.
Merc is a bit silly.
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Re: To the next LTD Tournament

Postby cyberpunk » Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:27 pm

Thanks everybody for the ideas
I have decided to follow jesus and he told me to make the same modes due to players complaining about merce, they are saying merce is like Kratos
Our champion is undefeated and they didn't even try to get Merce.
That looks a challenge indeed, people who says merce is very op will win the game easily.. hold on! Why they didn't win before? Perharps this tourney can give us an answer! :3 Eureka! :D
So I hope to see everyone playing in this next tourney, first day of march, I'll be there waiting for you.
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