New elo system! do you like it?

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Would you like to change the elo system?

Yes! Do it right now
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I dont know, but this is better than the current one
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No, Keep the same!
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New elo system! do you like it?

Postby godlik3 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:13 pm

My suggestion is change the elo system like that:

-All games will be 15/15 elo, doesnt matter the avarege elo from each team
-All games will be captain mode
-Games will be created like always, with !start !start3 !start2
-Captains will be the 2 highest elo
-The lowest elo from the 2 highest will start choosing.
- When all people join the game, captains can start choosing and the game owner do the changes
Imo this will improve a lot games like 2s, and will almost end all drama and rage since u play with friends almost all games.
Do you like it? Vote now!

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Re: New elo system! do you like it?

Postby nabo. » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:29 pm

If you want 15/15, just go with win/lose.
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Re: New elo system! do you like it?

Postby godlik3 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:38 pm

cant go win/lose or what we gonna do about dc penalty?

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Re: New elo system! do you like it?

Postby nabo. » Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:02 pm

Lihl players stack a lot? Isnt the playerbase small and one another player frequently together regardless of elo?
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Re: New elo system! do you like it?

Postby supersexyy » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:14 pm

Sounds good in theory but boy would this increase the 'drama' 10 fold. Wouldn't work in practice.
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Re: New elo system! do you like it?

Postby Krayyzie » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:33 pm

agrees with supersexyy..i see several positives, but the negatives takes over for me

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Re: New elo system! do you like it?

Postby MarshMallows » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:05 pm

people might not join games if they didn't get the team they wanted.

I wouldn't hate if teams were decided by players elo at first so the averages were even, but then you played for 15/15 elo.

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Re: New elo system! do you like it?

Postby godlik3 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:15 pm

@marshmallows how cant they dont join?
the teams that are on lihl chat wont be the teams on game!
players will pick the teams on game

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Re: New elo system! do you like it?

Postby MarshMallows » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:18 pm

but what if you don't get the team you like and 'lag out' on start screen?

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Re: New elo system! do you like it?

Postby Diablo_ » Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:54 am

MarshMallows wrote:but what if you don't get the team you like and 'lag out' on start screen?


Same can be said about the current system, that's a weak counterargument :P
It would still be a rulebreak and would be subject for penalty.

Personally I'm no big fan of 15/15 Elo win/loss.
I think godlikes suggestion would reduce flaming/rage but it would probably increase "drama" in the lobby (unfair team, qq cause godlike isn't in same team as fua, qq cause patarinsky isn't in same team with martny etc). I think at the end of the day both systems are about equal, both having pros and cons.
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Re: New elo system! do you like it?

Postby godlik3 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:23 pm

Mb we could try it for 2 3 weeks?
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Re: New elo system! do you like it?

Postby eldryan » Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:38 pm

the system is going to create too much power in the hands of high elo players. low elo players won't have any say, high elo will have all the say. why should only players with higher ELO get to choose?

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Re: New elo system! do you like it?

Postby Krayyzie » Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:27 pm

add the part people are already tired of long time before games start..imagine picking teams every time and some people go afk, wait 5 mins for him to join , wait another 5 mins for people to decide and then..woot, lets 4s instead of 3s, there´s 2 more players..repick teams and so on :S

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Re: New elo system! do you like it?

Postby ArMeDaNdDeAdLy » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:54 pm

In the current system i played 4 18-12 games which i didnt like and i couldnt dodge since i was signed.There has to be something about it that could be changed.

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Re: New elo system! do you like it?

Postby nabo. » Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:07 pm

Even with 15/15 system, those who win more will have higher elo than those who lose more.

Armed seems to be arguing the fact that elo does not take into consideration the total number of games played and unfair matchups with autobal. Although, elo is just an approximate skill measure.

Why dont you guys keep the elo system as it is and just random team instead of autobal based on elo?
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