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Postby Masamune » Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:11 pm

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I have a question and also a suggestion if its possible if this can be answered..

Is it possible to remove the locations of the players that receive their ELO in-game? I personally think that it is a breach of privacy for the players playing the game because it does not allow anonymity for people who alt or those who wish to have the locations in which they live in private to them. I think only admins should be inclined to view this data rather than the public who should not have access to that knowledge. There are even people with an unknown flag and are therefore untraceable for the public so I hardly think that is fair for other people. As I said, I think only the privileged (admins - blues, greens and reds) should have that power.


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Re: Player Locations

Postby nabo. » Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:21 pm

How is showing tat u live in X country, a breach of privacy?

Although i have seen some people suspect of players to be a certain someone and flame looking solely on one's profile flag, i do not think this is a big issue.

Untraceable ips which are usually proxies/vpns are supposed to be banned.
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Re: Player Locations

Postby Masamune » Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:25 pm

nabo. wrote:How is showing tat u live in X country, a breach of privacy?

Although i have seen some people suspect of players to be a certain someone and flame looking solely on one's profile flag, i do not think this is a big issue.


I think it varies on the community - NWU's extremely - the community itself is considerably small so everyone knows each other. However, I don't want people with public access knowing where I play from. And I think for others as well. The whole point of the Internet is anonymity, right? It allows for harassment if anything based on prejudice for that country although I might be wrong.


EDIT: Also, before ELO was installed, no one knew where people were playing from. I'd appreciate if it was kept that way still with ELO being added on too. People prefer to play on alts nowadays and don't want others to know where they play from. I think only admins should have the privilege to see their location lol rather than the public.

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Re: Player Locations

Postby Profe » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:17 pm

Lol chris not to be a dick, but no one really alts that hardcore enough to care about whether their location is shown or not in Nwu. Never was a big deal in the past when elo was in nwu, and I don't think it'll affect it.
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Re: Player Locations

Postby Azog » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:19 pm

Profe wrote:Lol chris not to be a dick, but no one really alts that hardcore enough to care about whether their location is shown or not in Nwu. Never was a big deal in the past when elo was in nwu, and I don't think it'll affect it.

it happens just ask Kresha he stalk ppl 1+ @masamune good idea ill be able to alt :3
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Re: Player Locations

Postby Profe » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:21 pm

I don't think kresha cares enough to do that. @azog
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Re: Player Locations

Postby Jiminy_Cricket » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:43 pm

I agree with Nabo. It's nice to have a country flag up. You should see OHS. They google map you. The arrow on my my map showed me within 100 miles of where I actually live. That I consider a breach of privacy.
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Re: Player Locations

Postby Grief-Code » Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:23 am

Do we? Hm, i dont think so currently :-)

We may did, that is true, but the idea why we did this is because we can, if you 'consider a breach of privacy' please leave the internet, you are sharing to each platform or website your IP, privacy information and maybe more data.

What platforms are doing with your information is probably our idea, you even accepted with the standard phpBB agreements that we are allowed to save and use your IP.
And it was never an idea of breach the privacy, because we used a simple GEOIP Database which included a lot of wrong data and was actually free to use. We were asked a lot to get a deeper database which can exactly determine the city and will show your position in a radius of 10 miles.

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Re: Player Locations

Postby Masamune » Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:55 am

@Profe
True enough but still. There aren't many people who play anymore because ELO went MIA lol. Narrowing the people down now is as easy as 1 2 3 since there aren't a lot of players that play atm.

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You misunderstood what I meant, I think. Yes, we signed up for the agreements. However, that IP is protected by the admin upon signing up. It's a contract you sign to keep confidentiality as well. That IP might be preserved and it is therefore protected by all Mods. The breach of privacy I'm talking about is revealing your GEO location such as the country and/or area you live in and the only thing that provides the area you live in is obvious because of the ping. Let's say someone lives in the US/CDN West coast and they play on a Chicago based server. They will have around 60-100 ms depending on their computer because their location is far from the server (at least that's how Muzk told me it works) while an East coast person receives 18 ms in-game. You easily narrow down a person's geo-location that way because it lessens the probability in your estimates. Take Azog's case. He is one of the few Peruvians that plays in NWU. A person decides to look up who beat him and they find that all of a sudden a Peruvian beat him. They accuse of them of hacking or dodging (since a lot of people are banned for it atm) and flame for that reason. Nabo told me that it's a simple change in statistics in-chat, so its not that big of a change. However, the NWU community is rather small and it's easy to find out who is who if people can see what country they live in.

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Re: Player Locations

Postby aRt)Y » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:52 pm

So tl;dr; we've to change it because NWU is a kiddo community?
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Re: Player Locations

Postby Profe » Sat Apr 11, 2015 3:07 pm

Lol personally coming from an nwu standpoint, no one really cares....and kris I think you're just trying to change it so people aren't saying oh "a Peruvian and a Canadian just beat me and they're on the same team; it must be nura and azog," when you guys alt/snipe.
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Re: Player Locations

Postby Masamune » Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:36 pm

@art)y
Pretty much. Simply because the community itself has not grown.


@Profe
Well you can't really speak for the whole NWU community completely, but you know how very childish the people are. Some do care because they are hypocritical idiots and troll since they have no life. And yeah, that's what I want because I don't people on my dick for sniping them lol. You don't have anything to worry about because you live in the States and a lot of people play from there. Some people who alt just want to play alone without their mutual friends too. There are many variables at play here.

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Re: Player Locations

Postby aRt)Y » Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:42 pm

Off topic:
So we also dont get back ELO because inb4 game exploits?
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Re: Player Locations

Postby Masamune » Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:44 pm

aRt)Y wrote:Off topic:
So we also dont get back ELO because inb4 game exploits?


XD

No in-game crashes that we know of that are caused by the player atm so I think the map is healthy - just the community is what's rotten :P

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Re: Player Locations

Postby eGloryKresh » Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:46 pm

@profe @art)y @masamune like prof says nobody cares who is who and where is he from, what is the problem if u find out its " x person " Nothing ? idk why people are obsessed to care more about who the guy is or where he live than playing the game itself. If ya want to find out more about the person of what he do were he live and other u can just whisp him or text him after game the game. Location has nothing to do with alting because nobody can stop someone at alting if u want do 100 alts go on nobody will stop you but whats the point of it anyway ? change acc per game and next say " i sniped him bla-bla " " it was not me that was someone els " " no hes my cousin no hes my bro bl-bla some stupid story about alting " thats childish, its best to play with 1-2-3 max acc that acceptable if something is needed to change or fix is the ELO stuff would be cool if it works again so the last people who play can teamwork more and be nice to each other to so they can reach their goal to victory. ( best part of the game is to read the comment " wp team ) agree?




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