Unvouch request: Eldryanthewise

ILOCOS_NORTE · Postby **ILOCOS_NORTE** » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:39 pm

Because of his unstable connection I suggest to unvouch Eldryanthewise until he returns from China. He dc way to often. He played 20 lihl games (21.04.2015) this season and I found on page one of his games history the following disconnects.

Regular DCs:
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=5546863
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=5560709
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=5591724
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=5608770
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=5632132

Exceeded permitted lagging time:
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=5592435

Hard lagging that players decided to draw before he actually dc:
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 571951.w3g
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=5626567

I think this is way to much and should be considered as game ruin. I would leave the last word to the mods and the community wheither they want to keep Eldryanthewise in the league or not.

eldryan · Postby **eldryan** » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:57 pm

a. Two of the "dcs" were games that were concluded before two minutes passed.
b. One wasn't a dc. We drew to remake the game with different players - not in any way a lag related game.
c. In the draws that were "lag-related" all agreed to draw if there was too much lag before asking me to sign.

So 3 dcs in 1 season is unvouchable?
Maybe LIHL should unvouch every player, since every member has wasted more time then 3 dcs worth of play over the course of this season....

The fact that this sort of thread is published is despicable. The favoritism and "common sense" involved in this type of thread are so far from a League based mentality that you might as well remove the League title from LIHL and just call this "clan LIH" Leagion-TD In House. There is no official aspect in this... I am disappointed. I expected better from someone calling for such drastic measures.

PS (Off-Topic):

Spoiler!

nabo. · Postby **nabo.** » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:59 pm

Why are you talking about the pause case? That case is done.

As for your dc, if you warned players beforehand at bnet channel that you would probably lag out, that is fine.
If not and you dc too often, raising a concern is valid.
Mods can investigate and make a decision.

eldryan · Postby **eldryan** » Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:01 pm

nabo. wrote:Why are you talking about the pause case? That case is done.

As for your dc, if you warned players beforehand at bnet channel that you would probably lag out, that is fine.
If not and you dc too often, raising a concern is valid.
Mods can investigate and make a decision.

There is nothing to investigate. There is no such thing as "dc too often". During the draws, they asked me to sign and said draw if lag... there is no way you can investigate it. If you are below a certain ELO, activity, and w/l rate you qualify to be unvouched. Otherwise, this thread is moot (it is). Mods don't have the authority to investigate and unvouch players at will by their discretion with unverified criteria.

Also, I'm talking about the pause case because it was the most blatant rule violation I've ever seen, and the incompetent moderating (which I'm making a complaint for) completely overdrew it.

nabo. · Postby **nabo.** » Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:04 pm

Stop being a tard.
Mods are called moderators because they moderate the league.
They can check your games, talk to others, check lobby channel chats all they want. What authority? Mods are the ones who accept vouch and unvouch if necessary.
If this is indeed an invalid case, you have nothing to worry about.

Edit: Further spam will be deleted.

eldryan · Postby **eldryan** » Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:08 pm

nabo. wrote:Stop being a tard.
Mods are called moderators because they moderate the league.
They can check your games, talk to others, check lobby channel chats all they want. What authority? Mods are the ones who accept vouch and unvouch if necessary.
If this is indeed an invalid case, you have nothing to worry about.

Edit: Further spam will be deleted.

It wasn't spam anymore then what you're saying is spam...
Moderators are referees. They don't dictate the score and ELO, they enforce the rules. There is no rule remotely relevant to this post, and there almost certainly never will be.

nabo. · Postby **nabo.** » Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:10 pm

Seems like you are unable to wait.
You can refute all you want once a moderator posts something.

Locked till review.

aRt)Y · Postby **aRt)Y** » Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:11 pm

"Raising concern"? On the reform thread they all complained how PES will ruin their true ELO due to few games and high DC rate. Why arent they already unvouched?

Looks like an invalid reason to me, plus a rage thread to revenge eld's actions before.

Postby **matdas** » Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:59 pm

nabo. · Postby **nabo.** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:47 pm

@greatbeyond @armedanddeadly

I wanted you guys to check and make a decision.

Anyway,

Season is ending soon and reform plans will take into effect. So, we will address your disconnections issues again if you still dc often during the next season. Despite your disconnections being quite known to league members, you can take this as a warning to do something about it. This topic shall stay as a reference.

@HealByColor
In regards to this, I dont even know wtf u talking about. I dont see artmas posting anything about eld. Should be quite a common sense that those who dc too often should be penalized for it and serve a ban time. Not sure if the unvouch u thought was permanent or temporary.

@eldryan
Duration of game and when you disconnect has little relevance. If you dc, you dc.
You and any other have until the end of this season to compromise their net connection somehow and reduce the chances of lagging out.

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