Stats proposal

[Kaisereo]

I personally would prefer if that stats system stayed, I know many players that actually try in DoTA and other ranked games for the stat recognition they get afterwards. I also acknowledge that many players (even I'm guilty of this) constantly use the stats system to unbalance the game. On the same note, the stats system can be a skills accommodation as it tells you if your teammates are good or not (losing games constantly isn't really fun). Personally this is just my input, but players who just want to play games without actually playing stacked games should just go to A-BAL games.

[Nz.Death]

Can someone actually tell me one good reason to change the stats system ?

If you think people stack then play A-BAL.....
If you dont like your own stats (dont type !sd)
If you dont care who you play with or against then dont sd them.

Doesnt that solve this whole problem??

Someone give me an actually reason to change it , I dont want to read 40 paragraphs of crap on why to change it, Just give me 1 good point why !

This thread is just becoming stupid

[cyberpunk]

some people dont care about leaving and get a ban 2hours

Isn't 2 hours all the time. oO Depends on their avg stay rate.
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I like the checking stats in game idea.
I've never seen a player leave purely because they've noticed someone has bad stats whilst in game.
Leaving because of noobs in game is common, but not because of stats.

The biggest Problem with stats in Lobby is that it tooks much longer to get games started;

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My conclusion after reading all posts except this one tl dr

1. Some of you are not playing ranked games, take note of this
   

   The biggest Problem with stats in Lobby is that it tooks much longer to get games started;

2. the marjority Dota players has the same opnion, should stay as it is; the marjority Custom players is saying the system should change.

So let dota as it is; and change the custom.. :3

Someone give me an actually reason to change it , I dont want to read 40 paragraphs of crap on why to change it, Just give me 1 good point why !

This thread is just becoming stupid

A fool comment made by you Nz. I expect more for you as moderator.

[Nz.Death]

I know cyber, But i havent seen one good reason why yet, Our bot's host a-bal. And people will always play with their mates , If we changes the stats system in anyway it not going to help anyone, Hiding stats wont help because if your playing with your mates then youll know what elo eachother have anyways but the other team wont. And if they make it that if a games to stacked that it gets a-bal and your on a team of friends then it will just cause more people to leave in the lobby and delay more game's.

EDIT : My view is from Dota and that view alone , I dont play many custom games so i cannot comment on that side sorry.

[supersexyy]

Someone give me an actually reason to change it , I dont want to read 40 paragraphs of crap on why to change it, Just give me 1 good point why !

This thread is just becoming stupid

No need to be a twat, and not everyone plays games which have Auto Balance (most maps other than Dota).

Still ruin an entire for your proposition, making it visible in lobby will make these people left before game start, its like giving a warn "you have beginner/noob on your side" leave now or never.

If you're saying stats should be kept so "you have beginner/noob on your side" then that is exactly a reason to remove stats - to stop people like you stacking teams / leaving.

[Dissh1tRiteHere]

What might be better done is to host a full set of the 1150+ elo matches for dota. i think if they were hosted more, more people would play them and avoid the whole noob feeder avoidance.

[Dissh1tRiteHere]

If [ENT] DotA HR 1150+ -apem or arem was being hosted i would join that every time and would never even think about going non 1150+ games. this would all so give newplayers a place to play and learn. or if possible set elo brackets in game, as such once someone joins a game with say 1400elo it will put them in a game with only 1300-1500 elo players. or something like that i dont know lol just throwing shit out there.

[Agent]

If [ENT] DotA HR 1150+ -apem or arem was being hosted i would join that every time and would never even think about going non 1150+ games. this would all so give newplayers a place to play and learn. or if possible set elo brackets in game, as such once someone joins a game with say 1400elo it will put them in a game with only 1300-1500 elo players. or something like that i dont know lol just throwing shit out there.

Yes! This!

Takes out alt accounts, minimizes stacking since everybody is around the same skill level, what a wonderful idea!

[uakf.b]

I don't know if the ELO brackets would work for games besides apem and ap and a few other popular DotA modes.

[Dissh1tRiteHere]

If the brackets idea wont work how about doing the full set of 1150+ elo cause having -rd only is not fun. can we at least add 1150+ apem and arem?

[zerodenies]

Ok say if you play dota, And your stats are something like 1300elo 7kills per game 3 deaths and a 87% win rate. Here is an example why stats my be good for everyone to see.

Your the 1st person in the game, Then 4 people join and stay on your team , But they are all 400-500 elo 1 kill per game and 9 deaths and a 15% win rate.

Then 5 join the other team and they are all 1900 elo 10 kills per game and 1 death and a 95% win rate.

1st of all would you say bot had stacked? (no they just joined and managed to be on the same team).
would you still play knowing that you have no chance to win? (no. because you can see all stats and you no that u have about a 0.4% chance of winning.

ROFL. THAN THAT FUCKING 87%WIN RATE IS NOT REALLY AN 87% WIN RATE IS IT? How can you talk about win an 87% win rate if you dodge the games were you might lose. In fact its pretty pathetic that one would lose 13% of the time despite dodging those games.
and i like how there isnt one a-bal game in your game history nz.death. oh wait there is one, and you lost, and than decided to not play that shit anymore (which btw you deserve to lose since you got arcane boots on destroyer over treads). Yet your telling everyone "just go play a-bal"? that doesnt add up.


check him
http://clanent.net/openstats/?u=wksm-

76/0 win loss ratio rofl. I'm sorry, even if you are adventureclub and flowersnow combined plus play with a MH... you still would not get a 76/0 win ratio without the aid of stacking teams. (notice none of his games are a-bal)
now if everyone... LITERALLY everyone, is going to be a tool and care for your stats like wksm- does... well we wouldnt have any games going would we.

the only reason this whole stats system has not collapsed on itself is because the noobs dont care as much and allow themselves to get preyed upon. Ironically, most of these noobs that get slaughtered game after game are the ones that dont use these ent forums often.

again, imagine if everyone was like wksm-. there would be no games.

as far as dota goes, SD showing up at lobby is stupid.
however in game !sd should definitely be enabled. so that if theres an 1800 elo naix on the other team, supports know to block creep camps/ward/gank early and often. you can also know who on your team you should be giving advice and guiding.

[zerodenies]

POINT BLANK.

IF EVERYONE STACKS, THERE WOULD BE NO GAMES. BECAUSE AS SOON AS ONE TEAM HAS HIGHER AVG ELO THE OTHER TEAM LEAVES.

[Nz.Death]

I think you might be a little mad about something, and there is alot of a-bals in my stats . And why does it bother you if i dodge a game ? I can dodge if i want to....

And if you read my post that you qouted "ITS AN EXAMPLE U MORON".

WHy dont you post something to actually do with this thread, Or are you way to keen to stalk me.

EDIT : Also that a-bal was because it was me and 5 other mates wanting to play, It was the only even way we could all play in one game. Maybe get your facts straight and whats wrong with arcane on od ? can you not support your team?

[NutzSucksHard]

This is going way to much personal. We started about the necessary of having stats visible or not.

Tell, why your for it, or not for it

Agreement or disagreement. Period. Give exemple for making it more clear. That's all.

My statement is :
When you win the superbowl, you don't show it right?

When you win stanley cup, you don't show it right?

When you win a ring for something, a trophy for MvP of the year, best coach, ofc, you don't put in vision of everybody.

Even when you get your degree, you will show it, maybe enclose it and put it on the wall. Yes or no? Are you proud of what you're doing, of what you did achieve?? Yes!? So you want to show it. Simple as that.

[teller55]

Why can't DotA players just not be douches and kick people, rage quit, or try to stack teams...it's a game...just play it...