fixing the dc penalty

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Do you want to fix dcs/pp

a. Use autoban on dcs.
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b. Save game and finish the games if someone dcs.
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c. Dc penalty them so dcer loses 20 points, and everyone else gains 4. Don't finish the game.
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fixing the dc penalty

Postby eldryan » Fri May 08, 2015 5:15 pm

Obviously @art)y and @nabo. have had some painstaking discussions with LIHL members on how to fix it, but never came up with the most obvious solutions.

a. If someone dcs, use autoban formula.
b. If someone dcs, save game and remake it with same players 10 seconds later and continue playing where it left off.

Really don't understand why dc is an issue in this league.

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Re: fixing the dc penalty

Postby aRt)Y » Fri May 08, 2015 5:56 pm

If you suggest to apply ELO punishments (20 or 4 points), that wont happen.
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Re: fixing the dc penalty

Postby eldryan » Fri May 08, 2015 5:59 pm

aRt)Y wrote:If you suggest to apply ELO punishments (20 or 4 points), that wont happen.

that's what it is now?

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Re: fixing the dc penalty

Postby aRt)Y » Fri May 08, 2015 6:00 pm

For disconnects? No.
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Re: fixing the dc penalty

Postby nabo. » Fri May 08, 2015 6:01 pm

saving and loading doesnt work lol
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Re: fixing the dc penalty

Postby eldryan » Fri May 08, 2015 6:03 pm

nabo. wrote:saving and loading doesnt work lol

som1 said it worked before. couldn't you as an admin load the game with towers placed like that using -gold -lumber commands?

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Re: fixing the dc penalty

Postby aRt)Y » Fri May 08, 2015 6:19 pm

Regardless of whether it's technically possible, you should read this (http://codelain.com/wiki/index.php?titl ... aved_Games).
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Re: fixing the dc penalty

Postby Krumme » Fri May 08, 2015 9:50 pm

aRt)Y wrote:If you suggest to apply ELO punishments (20 or 4 points), that wont happen.


So you are saying what we had before is so far from good that you refuse to go back? Personally I think ELO penalty is working better than the 36 hours ban you give people now. I might have had a different opinion at some point (honestly can't remember) but I feel like ELO penalty is the proper way to go about it.

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Re: fixing the dc penalty

Postby HealByColor » Fri May 08, 2015 10:45 pm

I like the elo penalty if I ever disconnect it will never be intentional and I could see me for somehow getting untouched from this.
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Re: fixing the dc penalty

Postby godlik3 » Sat May 09, 2015 6:43 am

As diablo already said, ppl shoudlnt get unvouched because of dc! 90% of dc r not players fault and they cant control it.
Only if no proxy ppl should get a heavy ban! =]

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Re: fixing the dc penalty

Postby aRt)Y » Sat May 09, 2015 7:19 am

We never wanted the unvouches. It's what you guys wanted - dont forget that.

Furthermore, it's not as simple as simply going back. It's a long term strategic move that we do not want to alter ELO anymore.


90% of dc r not players fault and they cant control it.
Whether that's true, we will see based on stats.
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Re: fixing the dc penalty

Postby eldryan » Sat May 09, 2015 12:22 pm

Disappointed. I don't think people comprehend the suggestion of loading saved games as a realistic approach.

Basically, you would just need the map file, @art)y - can contact the makers.

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Re: fixing the dc penalty

Postby supersexyy » Sat May 09, 2015 1:57 pm

Yeah so you can load the map between the game and watch it
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Re: fixing the dc penalty

Postby eldryan » Sat May 09, 2015 3:43 pm

supersexyy wrote:Yeah so you can load the map between the game and watch it

fog would still be on, as I can see it. that's why players need to save from same team.

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Re: fixing the dc penalty

Postby HealByColor » Thu May 14, 2015 1:16 pm

aRt)Y wrote:If you suggest to apply ELO punishments (20 or 4 points), that wont happen.


I feel that the elo punishment was far more successful. The other day achillesgr played for like 5 hours and got one complete game sadly ending in a loss. I have experienced a lot more draw situations since the change.

If you feel like there's no going back I vote that it shouldn't be mandatory to draw.
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