Stats proposal

[NutzSucksHard]

True teller, just said it. It become personal. People taking this like it's a need in their life. If their stats sucks. They will... Well, not here to talk of it . Now, I'm going to... And then... Yea you know. Stuff

[Nz.Death]

It has become personal for some reason, Anyways ive made my opinion on what i think and ive said enough.

[matdas]

Interesting.
A-bal (or whatever it is, if its for dota only, then don't bother for dota is full of flamers/ragers and i do not play dota), someone give me a list of the games for it?

Gonig to a-bal (or whatever it is), what if i have one friend that i want to play with? so i have to deal with a giant stacked team just to play with him? What if my elo is 700 and his is 1600, is it fair that once he joins before me everyone switches teams so he cannot be on my team? then when he goes down, everyone follows? Stats in lobby should not exist. If people want to stack their teams with their friends, by all means go for it. But to have pubs stack teams because of stats in the lobby makes the games less desirable.

The hole hole "show off your stats" deal, yes, go ahead show off your stats. Show it off to everyone In-Game. Lobby only makes it stack teams.

What i have seen so far:

No showing stats in lobby

Only show kills/wins

Remove stats completely (i am against this)

Show all stats from all accounts (prolly wont work)

Leave things the way they are so "pro" players stack their teams and make the game not fun.

What else am i missing?

[NutzSucksHard]

Do you reaslise people will spam stats in game, over talking about strat, where to build, picking hero etc ? not worth it. Still, some people dont care about leaving and get a ban 2hours, cause they have a bad player on their side. Still ruin an entire for your proposition, making it visible in lobby will make these people left before game start, its like giving a warn "you have beginner/noob on your side" leave now or never.

Nutz-

Did you read this. Thats why in-game isn't good. Bingo. It's not only for dota I'm talking. Or even, people will !votekick abuse cause someone is noob in-game. Bullshit.

[matdas]

Do you reaslise people will spam stats in game, over talking about strat, where to build, picking hero etc ? not worth it. Still, some people dont care about leaving and get a ban 2hours, cause they have a bad player on their side. Still ruin an entire for your proposition, making it visible in lobby will make these people left before game start, its like giving a warn "you have beginner/noob on your side" leave now or never.

Nutz-

Did you read this. Thats why in-game isn't good. Bingo. It's not only for dota I'm talking. Or even, people will !votekick abuse cause someone is noob in-game. Bullshit.

Increase ban length, problem solved. If they cannot play for the entire day or two, then they will start staying.

[zerodenies]

I think you might be a little mad about something, and there is alot of a-bals in my stats . And why does it bother you if i dodge a game ? I can dodge if i want to....

Maybe get your facts straight and whats wrong with arcane on od ? can you not support your team?

yes you can dodge if you want to.
and if everyone dodges as soon as it becomes unfavorable for them, than theoretically NO GAMES would ever be able to start. NO ONE CAN DISAGREE WITH THIS. the reason this doesnt happen according to theory is because not everyone dodges. and the people that dont dodge... well they are usually the scrubs that get picked on game after game after game. fun stuff for them lol.

and lol whats wrong with arcane on od you say
this is your team line up, and your enemy team line up...
http://clanent.net/findstats.php?id=1073318

i dont even want to comment on your scepter when the enemy has 3 int heroes and your lothars and your attempt to make linkens.

but that has nothing to do with this thread so we will leave it at that. I wasnt trying to clown on your game play (so i will apologize for that), i was just merely pointing out that in your last 10 games, you have only 1 a-bal game played. which makes sense cause you just said "I can dodge if I want to". its just akward when your saying a-bal is the answer to these stacking problems.

but if anyone has anything they'd like to disagree with, than please just refer to my previous statement.
"if everyone dodges as soon as it becomes unfavorable for them, than theoretically NO GAMES would ever be able to start"

[Nz.Death]

You comment on my items , Yet who on my team did the best that game??

I suggested people use A-Bal if they are worryed about people stacking so dont take what i have said out of context.
Anyways this seems more of a personal attack on me from you for a reason that im still not sure of anyways. But everyone is intitled to their own opinion.

Might i ask what your battle.net name is though i might learn something looking through your games considering you seem to know alot more than i do on my game style.

username: thomas.kacz

[zerodenies]

You comment on my items , Yet who on my team did the best that game??

I suggested people use A-Bal if they are worryed about people stacking so dont take what i have said out of context.
Anyways this seems more of a personal attack on me from you for a reason that im still not sure of anyways. But everyone is intitled to their own opinion.

Might i ask what your battle.net name is though i might learn something looking through your games considering you seem to know alot more than i do on my game style.

do you rly want to defend your item making in that game? just say i dont play destroyer but i would rape you with another hero or something. I cant play a few heroes myself too, you dont need to feel insulted. if u rly feel arcane is better than treads, you can do some math. treads would give you at least 50% (prob close to 100% late game) dps than arcane.

and this isnt a personal attack. i stack myself and avoid a-bal games (unless im on spoof accounts). but I know what would be better for the community as a whole. and until ent keeps showing stats in lobby, i will continue to pub stomp.

[randomloser]

This is kind of a tough subject to comment on. The problem is human nature in itself. If there is any advantage to be taken you can be certainly sure somebody will abuse such advantage. Sure you could remove stats entirely in lobbies and it can create a sort of fairness. However I can tell you from the type of people I meet everyday that they will probably migrate to another bot that allows them to check their stats. This probably would have no effect what so ever on your custom games but your dota games will definitely take a hit from this. If you are to do this just do it for the custom games.

[NutzSucksHard]

This is kind of a tough subject to comment on. The problem is human nature in itself. If there is any advantage to be taken you can be certainly sure somebody will abuse such advantage. Sure you could remove stats entirely in lobbies and it can create a sort of fairness. However I can tell you from the type of people I meet everyday that they will probably migrate to another bot that allows them to check their stats. This probably would have no effect what so ever on your custom games but your dota games will definitely take a hit from this. If you are to do this just do it for the custom games.

Well said on that, people will go on an other bot. Not all. Still, if we get lack of player. Game will take longer to fill, less fun, THEN more will migrate to more popular bot. It's like shooting us in the feet.

Touchy subject are the stats. =/

[zerodenies]

Well said on that, people will go on an other bot. Not all. Still, if we get lack of player. Game will take longer to fill, less fun, THEN more will migrate to more popular bot. It's like shooting us in the feet.

Touchy subject are the stats. =/

yea thats why League of Legends is so unsuccessful... i mean it only has 12 million DAILY active players (4 times of CoD) and 1 billion hours of game play per month average. They would clearly have more success if they allowed lobby to display stats and make sure ppl can stack.

[helekiller]

i like that stats are saved, it makes games more competitive, and is really the only reason i started playing legion td , now my stats are reset i dont wanne start over lol
also, playing with people that have low ELO makes u win more or lose less ELO, so no need to dodge imo

[NutzSucksHard]

yea thats why League of Legends is so unsuccessful... i mean it only has 12 million DAILY active players (4 times of CoD) and 1 billion hours of game play per month average. They would clearly have more success if they allowed lobby to display stats and make sure ppl can stack.

Do you know who did created League of Legend? Steve Feak, Alias, first map dota creator in 2003. IceFrog take it back in 2005, and updated it to... today. It's ONE HUNDRED percent based ON dota (League of Legend). Just that people don't know dota AND that dota isn't free, need buy cd, compare to league of legend. Dota as started league of legend (in a sens) and an other game; Heroes Of Newerth. Stats or no stats, it's for the gameplay style they are playing right? The three lane, hero, creep, throne kill? So showing stats or no wouldn't matter. You just said it. You THINK or no sry, you're SURE, maybe your god, that people will stack in LoL.

There's my statement from friend playing it (info coming from him) : Still, it autobalance it. You have rank and icon and stuff you can customize your dude Idk the profile he talked about... Something like that (rank is like elo). And it is VISIBLE, not in lobby. But, game, when you search it, put you in with average same ranked people. It's like our HR mode, but they have it for every single type of player like rank 1-3 will be matched together most possible. 4-7 / 7-12 / 13-18 etc... Otherwise, if I start LoL, against the beast one, I'M kinda dead. So putting you with other beginner, let and give you the time to learn the game. Same as our a-bal game, difference is; it balance when all joined, and not make a lobby of the same average rank. Oh and, we have the super AI maps! Go train and learn dota here

Don't talk when you don't know sh*t. Sorry the the word, but pissing me off.. (all stuff I'm saying is based on mate call and I'm sure he's right, other steve would be dumb, and I know he isn't).

i like that stats are saved, it makes games more competitive, and is really the only reason i started playing legion td , now my stats are reset i dont wanne start over lol
also, playing with people that have low ELO makes u win more or lose less ELO, so no need to dodge imo

All you said is true. Still, some people doesn't undertsand it.

[zerodenies]

Don't talk when you don't know sh*t. Sorry the the word, but pissing me off.. (all stuff I'm saying is based on mate call and I'm sure he's right, other steve would be dumb, and I know he isn't).

your the one that doesnt know shit. I've played about 70 games in league of legends. You clearly don't play league of legends. why are you explaining to me how league of legends is played when I know more than you?

the point I was making is that you said "if we dont display stats, people will go to a different bot because people dont like that"

but league of legends does NOT display stats in the lobby and it is very popular.
I didn't mean take stats out entirely, I just meant stats shouldnt show up in the lobby.

[Thallo]

If you remove stats this bot is dead. Its that simple.