Formas ban appeal

[NutzSucksHard]

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Are we fair enough now? Like I said, you have to pass an amount of time being banned. After 4 month, you're pissed, I don't think you would take the risk of an other ban, being even longer! Like 2 years over one, non-appealable. You're in... Yea you know. SO, this said. We are fair, if the maphacker don't come here, and appeal with good/valid reason, yes, we won't unban. Forma does a lot for communities, and it's the reason admin are for the time reduce/unban. If he didn't helped the commnuinities, due to his immaturity, trashtalk etc.. He wouldn't been ban, compare the the link above, that been nice and clear on why he should be unbanned. I can tell you that 3-4 month without playing with the EnT communities is ... PIssing when your mate play there. Think about it. When you passed a certain amount of time under maphack ban * over 3 month minus for me * You can try appeal. Still, you need good argue, reason, and valid point. 3 % of maphacker have. So we aren't unbanning maphacker every single day, but special case.

Edition: Don't start a flame war with forma or any admin mod, put your opinion, that fine. Still, don't say something like; insult.

[oOrah]

everybody deserves a second chance. everyone should know that. he is a good admin, he unbanned me cuz i disconnected and get banned, he always answer my question, he join me in clan ent. i think admin should give him a chance, back in the days of school when i caughted cheating in the class i should of be expelled but the dean says its alright he make a mistake, we should give him a chance then they give me a chance and thats it. learning from mistake is the most beautiful thing in life. so admin..i think forma deserves a second chance. everyone makes a mistake.

[teller55]

@whoever typed about hoping all maphackers will see this and appeal. They didn't commit the 100s of hours that ForMa has to this community, so they will most likely be denied if they appealed after 3 weeks like ForMa has. If they start putting in hours and hours of time going through Ban Requests and Appeals and contributing to the clan, their ban appeal will be considered to shorten or unban as well. When you see some of the maphackers doing this, please let me know.

[CrowsZero]

Nutz, I understand what you are saying but one thing is just wrong about comparing that link and Forma's case. Forma was an admin, his whole life on ent, he spent his time catching hackers and banning them. The guy in that link appears to be new and unaware of the full consequences of using maphack. Formadawgs's case is special indeed due to the fact that he full aware knows and bans people with mh only to use it himself. The difference is that the guy in the link appeared sincere and did not thrashed admins. Forma, the other hand, told Kaiseiro to go get more post before posting, denied about his mhing usage, and told me that i spent countless hours only to get denied. Completely different kinds of appeal here. In the case of the guy in that link, it works for him. In the case of Formadawgs, it is clearly invalid due to the completely opposite responses.

[FlowerSnow]

I think its better for him to get 1 more chance since he did a lot of thing for ent.
not for every mher, but for him.
+ 1 unban.

[CrowsZero]

If anything at all, reduced ban time is acceptable to me. Just unbanning and hoping that Forma will learn is ludicrous. I like what nutz said, "ban for 4 months then appeal." For every choice, a consequence-Fable

[Kaisereo]

[...really long post not going to exactly quote it...]

Well written, everyone deserves time sentenced.

Edited for uber quote length.

[karasu.]

Injustice? I wouldn't call this game that, we're not trying a defendant in a courtroom here. The admins are like judges and they have very wide latitude in how they make their decisions because every case is different. Kais is it unreasonable to say that your opinion is a tad biased? I think this should be left up to the head admins.

[Kaisereo]

Injustice? I wouldn't call this game that, we're not trying a defendant in a courtroom here. The admins are like judges and they have very wide latitude in how they make their decisions because every case is different. Kais is it unreasonable to say that your opinion is a tad biased? I think this should be left up to the head admins.

Honestly, I'm not being bias. If it was me that comitted the offence, of course I would try to beg for being unbanned. On the case if it's justifiable that someone should be unbanned just because they once were a member of the team wouldn't make it fair for others. He should have known better since he was an admin.

[karasu.]

I'm sure there's more depth to it than that but we will see.

[ForMaDawgS]

lol kai i think you need to get to the ban requests rather then worry about my appeal go do your "job" make it past 300 posts... i see that there is over what 20 ban requests that need your attention.. lol

[Hisoka]

Denied with no regrets.

five reason that will let you to remain banned. Feel free to ban me, I wont start a Flame war and i will state facts.

1) Immature Kid
2) Cheater
3) Flaming Person. (Insulted everyone from me to random users that were asking information and chatting - see chat logs for details)
4) Bad Mannered
5) Yes the only Point at your favour is the fact that you was usefull for the Community.

For the restant 4 Points you dont deserve a so early chance.
Learn to Act as a civil person and not as a barking dog.
For his manners and How he acted in these days by flaming me in chat is currently a "No"
For his manners and How he acted in these days by flaming Random Users in chat is currently a "No"

I dont agree to his Appeal. You want to reduce the Ban. Still 6 months of Ban are fair enough for someone that is Disperectfull towards Mods and Persons.

[CrowsZero]

I back up Hisoka due to the clear reasons as stated. Perfect example of why Formadawgs isn't proving anyone he has changed is how he acts toward Kaiseiro. Forma referred back to the # of posting Kaiseiro has to do. Forma obviously doesn't care for the full support of all ENT admins to help his case. Forma is actually taunting Kaiseiro by mentioning that there are many ban request and appeals unanswered. Forma is by no means, fit to return after that post. I change my mind from 4 months to 6 months now. Half a year should help this dude learn some manners and maybe gain back some respect amongst ALL ENT Admins and Members. Forma.....by continuing to insult Kaiseiro, your case is getting harder to be made. Current actions now doesn't reflect on the past. It is what you do now that matters. In your case....*facepalm*

[ForMaDawgS]

lol no disrepect was typed or spoken nothing but the truth you engaged me in rude convorsation so replyed lol even teller said you were in the wrong you fool..

[CrowsZero]

I apologize Forma, I do not understand chicken scratch run on sentences. For your information, Teller was talking to Bane, not me. Forma, just now you called me a fool. I'm not an admin but I am a player that plays on ENT bots and visits this forum frequently. By calling me a fool, it shows that you don't respect admins AND bystanders as well. Keep digging yourself deeper in that little hole of yours.