Pubstomping... fixpls

[Burn]

Early killing the titan makes them learn builder instead of titan.

I don't care about the titan, it's the builder Q_Q that gets me most of the time. Also, as I said, it doesn't even happen that much that it's a problem. Don't know why we're talking like this is some big problem of ID where it clearly isn't.

-Burn

[ShadowZz]

Well unfortunately Burn the majority of players are bad and average. Good players account for around 10% of the total population of Island Defense. So if were talking about making the game fun then we have to balance it for the majority. Which is indeed average and below players. So removing something that only causes players of the top 10% to effectively ruin the game experience for the majority to me is a big issue.

Edit: Let me ask you a question. Why do you want ELO in ID and why do you think it is appropriate for it to be there?

[Burn]

Let me ask you a question: How many games percentage wise do you think have been so-called "ruined" by players who care about ELO?

-Burn

[ShadowZz]

Do you really want me to go and find all the games where you and Omni went triple and quad demo and killed the titan 3mins in because you knew it was broken in this version? Or should I go back and find the games where there were 50-60 spear throwers at mid 6mins into the game due to stacking????? You really gonna deny that?

[Burn]

So, around 0.0001% of the games then? Is that your final answer? You still have the option to change your answer.

-Burn

[Haunt]

Burn, come on...

I've played 37 games with you. 20-30 of those were with you and Omni killing titan in 5 min or less with two demos.

[ShadowZz]

Still going to avoid my questions?

Why do you want ELO in ID and why do you think it is appropriate to be there?

[Burn]

I've already told you why, and it's a pointless question that you can understand why easily. You're just avoiding my points and questions.

You told me that you balance for general games. Seeing as how I only have like 30 days of me trying to kill titan early out of my 10 year ID history, I think it's pretty safe to say that even for my personal games, who is infamous/famous for killing titan early, the percentage is quite low. I kill titan early mainly with Nature/Demo. Most of my games are Draenei/Tauren.

Now imagine, the thousands and thousands of games without me, where killing the titan early every game doesn't even enter their minds.

-Burn

[ShadowZz]

If you want me to I can breakdown the amount of games you ruin via the sheer amplitude of things you do such as only using overpowered builders, wall walking (abusing game mechanics) but I really can't be arsed.

Edit: Regardless this topic isn't about you it's about pub stomping and the main reason it happens is because people want easy ELO rather than good games.

[lordmillt]

shadow got a Point, remove elo and have fun games!

[Lynx]

Elo should exist in ID. Elo should be split into 2 different elo types; Legacy and Seasonal. The legacy elo category will be exactly the same as the current one. The seasonal variant will be same as the current one too except that it will reset every month for competetiveness.

For example you play and win a game, legacy elo increases and seasonal elo increases. But at the end of the month the seasonal elo is reset to default.

Concerning games ending early because burn tryhard has a simple solution;
Step 1: go titan against burn
Step 2: feed off of shit players
Step 3: laugh as you take burns hard earned elo

I can also write a guide how to win as titan with a fishbrain if people are interested.

btw is it really fun to play ID games where the titan is a complete paralymp?

[BeeKauzh]

Just kill titan if he cant find the way out of middle, let him live if he does find it.
Problem fixed!

[Sabishii]

Anyway, I just find it funny. Previously there was a topic about "Long lobby times because no one titans ", and now when people are willing to titan it became "Pubstomping... fixpls"

Elo or no elo, it doesn't change the fact that people can still go titan and pubstomp no matter what lol.
The only way to solve this problem I guess would be, if you're afraid of pubstomp then just go titan and let the builder win since it's for fun right ?

[Neco]

Personally I think ELO should only be applied to Titans, since they're the easiest to measure competitively and have statistics applied to a model (such as ELO). Other statistics should be available builders-wise however! Because that would be cool.