Legion TD early game leavers or DC.

[Calthor]

I think that there should be a new rule in Legion TD. It is common manners in Legion that if someone dc' or leaves in first few rounds then it should be a draw. However there are many in the game that just abuse this for the gain of ELO. Why not make it a rule for people having to draw in these circumstances? I feel this rule would benefit everyone and allow for fairer playing conditions.

[Mercy]

This wont pass. There would be an influx of bans and most of our players would be banned. Its a sportsmanship issue and its unfortunate if it isnt displayed, but shouldnt be bannable.

[I_kill_satan]

In the new LTD version provided by broud3r will be implemented -ac (ally control) mode, which allows to control leaver's builder and sends. So problem draw/not draw wont be important anymore.

[Calthor]

The problem is epidemic. I think in the last 2 days I have been in at least 5 games where it has happened. I do not understand why it could not be a rule. Having a rule for this kind of thing would allow people to have more trust in new players. Since it seems about %90 of start of game leavers are new. This causes me to have to keep leaving lobbies until I find a game with people who have some games under their belt. I would not mind playing with new players as much if this became a rule and I know many others feel the same way.

[Mercy]

As stated before, too many people would be banned, as most ltd players do not draw.

[SirSandgroper]

As stated before, too many people would be banned, as most ltd players do not draw.

I concur with Calthor's sentiments, but what if we made it more specific Mariah? Like when dropped players leave the game as 2v4 or even 1v4, 1v3 or the like?!

I understand that 3v4 happens quite often, is a grey area and would indeed see chaos if implemented. But there is the far less frequent and clearly much more unfair, skewed, scenario where one side loses multiple players in the early rounds, due to host d/cs that can create the above kind of scenarios...

So make the new rule something like, 'If a team has a 2-player or more advantage before Boss 10' or some such, then the etiquette of doing !draw should be followed, if instigated by the team who lost the players? Or something along those lines?

Again, 2v4 or 1v4 - doesn't happen so often, but when it does, it's entirely unfair and really more !draws should be encouraged in that scenario and a rule surrounding that would help alot!

Also, with your latter generalisation, that I bolded - more and more know to do and do, do, these days through word of mouth and voluntary etiquette, usually lead by pros. About 60/40, if not more often than not, that etiquette followed, if on reasonable grounds - usually earlier round leavers/dcers. I've participated in dozens of successful draws, many of them more recent times, as more and more are aware of this etiquette. Such a formal rule surrounding more extreme circumstances of players dropping out, would only encourage this culture of fair play and discourage unfair play and also, apparently, some who seem to exploit lag outs, either unintentionally or via some kind of 'lag hacks', to get the easy ELO wins?

Further, the ones who don't draw in those 2v4, 1v4 scenarios - it's not out of ignorance from experience, but out of intention from players who DO know better - infact many newbs do play fair and DO follow !draw voting, especially if explained how to do so. So it's not down to noobism or ignorance in these scenarios, it's often just down to purposeful exploitation - especially if there is a player in there who is explaining how to, but they ignore them!

[matdas]

wont happen. the leavers get banned by the auto ban. draw is a sportsmanship deal. its not mandatory to draw.

suggestion denied.