PLZ MAKE A RULE ABOUT !FF

[godlik3]

!ff should be used only if u not on the wave that u gonna lose
they are using it to snipe places for next game, and i also worry about the elo mess up thing.
plz make the rule not allowing people to use !ff on the wave that they are gonna die!
ty

[nabo.]

...they are using it to snipe places for next game, and i also worry about the elo mess up thing....

I dont see the issue if !ff passes and people quit the game?

[godlik3]

yes but they are using to sign faster than the other team
so its unfair.... when they ff we all w8 the king to die on the current wave, so they snipe spots for next game!

[nabo.]

Spoiler!

(36:38 / All) BeepBoopBeep: The Sentinel/West has forfeited
(36:38 / All) BeepBoopBeep: Wait ten seconds before leaving or stats will not be properly recorded!
(36:40 / All) BeepBoopBeep: lord_pistov has left the game voluntarily.
(36:40 / QUIT) lord_pistov: Left
(36:41 / All) Diablo_: gg
(36:42 / All) BeepBoopBeep: The Sentinel/West players have been removed from the game.
(36:42 / All) BeepBoopBeep: Please wait five or so seconds before leaving so that stats can be properly saved.
(36:42 / All) BeepBoopBeep: artichoke forfeited.
(36:42 / QUIT) artichoke: Left
(36:42 / All) BeepBoopBeep: KeeRo forfeited.
(36:42 / QUIT) KeeRo: Left
(36:42 / All) BeepBoopBeep: DON_KILLUMINATI forfeited.
(36:42 / QUIT) DON_KILLUMINATI: Left
(36:42 / All) BeepBoopBeep: Healbycolor forfeited.
(36:42 / QUIT) Healbycolor: Left
(36:53 / Allied) BeepBoopBeep: now
(36:54 / Allied) Diablo_: stupid ff
(36:54 / Allied) BeepBoopBeep: we miss
(36:55 / Allied) BeepBoopBeep: the next game
(36:56 / Allied) Diablo_: yes
(36:57 / Allied) god.lik3: YES
(36:59 / Allied) god.lik3: I GONNA MAKE
(36:59 / All) BeepBoopBeep: clearfluids has left the game voluntarily.
(36:59 / QUIT) clearfluids: Left
(37:01 / Allied) god.lik3: A THREAD ABOUT IT
(37:09 / All) BeepBoopBeep: god.lik3 has left the game voluntarily.
(37:09 / QUIT) god.lik3: Left
(37:09 / All) BeepBoopBeep: BeepBoopBeep has left the game voluntarily.
(37:09 / QUIT) BeepBoopBeep: Left
(37:10 / All) 1007: Diablo_ has left the game voluntarily.
(37:10 / QUIT) Diablo_: Left
(37:42 / All) 1007: 1007 was disconnected (gameover timer finished).
(37:42 / QUIT) 1007: Left

Is 5-15 seconds difference a big issue?

[Miyagi]

When the other team !ff I'm pretty sure you do not have to wait for their king to die in order to win the game. You are victorious, when they forfeit the match and get auto disconnected from the game.

[Diablo_]

You have to stay 10ish seconds ingame, while the team forfeiting will sign for the next game. That's abusive and unfair. !ff should just be removed again, it's not needed anyway.

[RadiantCrystal]

Why did we put ff in the league anyway? Should never give up until the last second as a league player

[V1rus]

>!ff was implemented for heavy clog cases. (that if a team abuses clog, they have to !ff)

!ff is not meant to use to give you an adv. over the other team to sign the next game faster. should be obv rly... like the !lihlsign command is not meant to give you an adv. of signing faster.
Its a little sad that we have to implement a rule for every new feature how u should not use (abuse) it... even if its pretty selfexplanatory (you might think)

However...further steps will be taken.

[RadiantCrystal]

>!ff was implemented for heavy clog cases. (that if a team abuses clog, they have to !ff)

!ff is not meant to use to give you an adv. over the other team to sign the next game faster. should be obv rly... like the !lihlsign command is not meant to give you an adv. of signing faster.
Its a little sad that we have to implement a rule for every new feature how u should not use (abuse) it... even if its pretty selfexplanatory (you might think)

However...further steps will be taken.

So if they ff, there won't be any bans imposed on cloggers or what is this case here

[supersexyy]

Why would you ban a team that forfeits lol???
All these rules from the nabo/arty implementation are I'll conceived and thankfully nearly all have been reverted. Hope the new mods can come up with some nice changes.

[RadiantCrystal]

>!ff was implemented for heavy clog cases. (that if a team abuses clog, they have to !ff)

!ff is not meant to use to give you an adv. over the other team to sign the next game faster. should be obv rly... like the !lihlsign command is not meant to give you an adv. of signing faster.
Its a little sad that we have to implement a rule for every new feature how u should not use (abuse) it... even if its pretty selfexplanatory (you might think)

However...further steps will be taken.

We don't even have specific rules and definition on clogging in LiHL so how to justify FF is still a question. Of course, the clogging rule for pub is not very appropriate here because the league is quite different.

Also "abuse clog" still lacks a general definition as well

[nabo.]

Why would you ban a team that forfeits lol???
All these rules from the nabo/arty implementation are I'll conceived and thankfully nearly all have been reverted. Hope the new mods can come up with some nice changes.

Ya right. Lets not go into detail how this league turned out because of you.

And no, that rule came from nore. As far as I remember, you also suggested people should forfeit when they clog.

We are getting offtopic. Leave clogging out.

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Deal with the few seconds after !ff passes or we can ask uak to delay the disconnection for losers or something, so winner and losers leave the game at similar time. I have PMed uak. Will update when I hear a response.

[HealByColor]

What nore said this is very simple solution surprised it took this many post to come up with that...

[pewpew lasergun]

there is some few instances where a team wants to actually forfeit
I think just ban its use during a send round. that should fix the issue of signing.

[BA_Fail]

Wow, you guys are really creative. I used to be against the forfeit command but now I approve of it.

I just like how you all feel entitled to a spot for the next game, despite the fact that there were other people waiting in lobby.