DPS of all Towers AND EHP of Walls (Raw)

[ShiroKami]

sry just copied and pasted the foun formular from other site xD
but I used the brackets when i calculated the DR xD

EDIT:
I revised everything.
It should be correct by now. But draenei was a real pain in the *** to figure out.

Please, give any pointers if there is anything still incorrect

[ShadowZz]

You can't work out the EHP of Draenei walls.

If a unit like a level 1 minion with like 100 damage attacks a draenei wall then it will take about 15secs to kill it and it would regen around 75 mana which would be like 200 EHP.

However if a level 16 titan hit it it would die in about 2 secs and only regen like 10 mana which would be like 30-50 EHP.

The EHP of a Draenei wall completely depends on the damage of the thing attacking it and then outside influence like hunter mana transfer, mana voids, well of power.

So EHP of the wall would be anywhere from 1300 EHP to infinity because you could technically regen mana faster than the wall loses it.

It's like trying to work out the EHP of a wall whilst it's being repaired :/


Edit: Just checking over your figures:

Goblin wall without evasion is right

Goblin wall with evasion is wrong:

EHP = bHP * (100/(100-ev%)) * (1+(armor*0.06))

100-ev% = 100-15=75
100/75=1.33333r
armor*0.06 = 1.2
1+1.2=2.2
650*1.3333r=866.66664
886.066664*2.2=1906.6666r

Goblin walls with evasion have 1906.6666r EHP

Edit 2: You typed "Margnataur"

[Lynx]

You obviously don't factor in mana regeneration. Even though it's a type of survivability for the wall, it has nothing to with EHP. For example, you don't calculate a hero's HP regeneration into EHP in dota 2.

[ShiroKami]

Edit: Just checking over your figures:

Goblin wall without evasion is right

Goblin wall with evasion is wrong:

EHP = bHP * (100/(100-ev%)) * (1+(armor*0.06))

100-ev% = 100-15=75
100/75=1.33333r
armor*0.06 = 1.2
1+1.2=2.2
650*1.3333r=866.66664
886.066664*2.2=1906.6666r

Goblin walls with evasion have 1906.6666r EHP

That should be correct, because Goblin Walls have 20% Evasion.
And shouldn't that be 85?

Well Draenei is a rough Estimation. I based that on Lvl 1 Bubo 118 dmg. It took 19 hits to destroy Max walls, because of its natural Mana regen.
Bubo did 3 HP dmg and 34 Mana dmg.

Max Draenei Walls
550 Mana
Attack burned 34 Mana
Attack reduced HP by 3 HP
Bubo DMG = 31 DMG

Without regen the Mana is depleted after 17 Hits and the next hit would destroy the wall (actually after 16 Hits he only has 6 mana left).
After 16 Hits Walls would have lost 48 HP ==> 52 HP left and 6 Mana ==> enough to survive 17th Hit, but next would destroy it.
Bubo real dmg against 15 Armor walls = 31 DMG (59 EHP DMG)
17*59=1003
18*59=1062
The real EHP should therefore be 1003<x<1062 <==== no mana regen (natural)
19*59=1121
1062<x<1121 <==== with mana regen (natural)
But in the list I used
18,5*59=1091,5

But those numbers where based on the fact that the Manashield Absorption description is wrong.
It states that it absorbs 90% of the incoming dmg and to negate 1 DMG 4.5 MANA is consumed.

I calculated the Mana consumption to be at 1.2 Mana per 1 DMG

If the Manashield uses 4.5 Mana per 1 dmg
Bubo Lvl 1 = 31 dmg to 15 armor Wall
Wall loses 3 HP per hit ===> 28 DMG should be absorbed

28*4.5=126 Mana loss per Hit =/= 34 Mana Loss per hit
28*1,2=33,6 =~34 Mana loss per hit

[ShadowZz]

My bad, I failed math xD

EHP = bHP * (100/(100-ev%)) * (1+(armor*0.06))

100-ev% = 100-20=80
100/20=1.25
armor*0.06 = 1.2
1+1.2=2.2
650*1.25=812.5
812.5*2.2=1787.5 EHP

Your right....

[ShiroKami]

Can someone please verify the Mana Absorption of Mana Shield, cause 4.5 Mana Point per 1 Dmg Point doesnt Make any sense to me.

[ShadowZz]

@Neco What's the rate of absorption for draenei walls?