Riki with Dagon => AnotherWorld © ® ™

[AnotherWorld]

Since i've started 1,5 months ago to play Riki, Mort, Bara, Ursa or even Leo with Dagon, performing 40-10 even, i see more & more users doing my combo Riki Dagon

How creative is that !
Just a tip for all guys who should stop copy builds they seen over years (almost 11 years from now) :

When you Riki-Dagon, you shoudn't upgrade dagon to any upper level such that stupid noob d(s)a-resion did :

You just need mass gold by getting kills, the dagon helps you to get 400 dmg at once & rape mostly opponents escaping fights with less than 400 HP = Free kill with dag. The advantage of Riki is the smoke to avoid anyspell + being perma invi.

Why going upper dagon levels suck?
Because early game, 400 hp one shot dag is enough till 35 minutes average. & That you should go mom & basher & then butter in order that you get around 35/40 minutes. At that moment of the game, when you buy your first eaglehorn, you can sell the dagon to buy talisman & get your butterfaster.

Having your butter then, the 400 hp shots are quite done by attacking from behind with basher mom butter. That's why Level 1 Dag is interesting & very useful until 35 min. Then paying 1250 for 100 dmg more is simply useless & losing money / avoiding to get better items. A butterfly on riki always make the difference.

At last, just for all suckers who copy my dagon/riki style, don't try too much copy pros unless u manage how to be creative & micro the good way

Cheers

PS : List of my replays can teach you how to RIKI Dag the good way.

[SLSGuennter]

At last, just for all suckers who copy my dagon/riki style, don't try too much copy pros unless u manage how to be creative & micro the good way

by a guy with 1280 elo. LOL

jk, i dont know anything about dota heroes/items anyway.

[Lynx]

dagon on any hero is such an old and shitty strat, dagon is only decent on puck and bs.

[AnotherWorld]

bs ?

[AnotherWorld]

At last, just for all suckers who copy my dagon/riki style, don't try too much copy pros unless u manage how to be creative & micro the good way

by a guy with 1280 elo. LOL

jk, i dont know anything about dota heroes/items anyway.

I'm 12 Kills per game for 4 deaths Average. (520 Games, 66% Win) & you ?

[nabo.]

The effectiveness of dagon depends on how fast you are able to farm it. Just like midas, it will lose its value the later you farm it. Should not get it if you cannot farm it in 4-7 minutes imo.

It is usually ill-advised to upgrade dagon lvl 1, but it really depends on how you play. If you can get lots kills compared to others, especially in -em, and can farm items like butterfly or eblade that way, seems fine.

[SLSGuennter]

At last, just for all suckers who copy my dagon/riki style, don't try too much copy pros unless u manage how to be creative & micro the good way

by a guy with 1280 elo. LOL

jk, i dont know anything about dota heroes/items anyway.

I'm 12 Kills per game for 4 deaths Average. (520 Games, 66% Win) & you ?

jk, i dont know anything about dota heroes/items anyway.

Im going to explain this:
jk = joke ... i just made a joke there.
i dont know anything about dota heroes/items anyway = i dont even play dota, so im quite sure i dont have stats for this map

[AnotherWorld]

:p i know i was just meaning elo is hard to be mean something mostly because good players stack & you can easily when you play with nabs who ruins lose straighly 300 elo in 10 games, K.D is to me what is the most meaningful btw try dota it's fun

[Lynx]

Bloodseeker does 1.4 times the damage with dagon. That brings his target down which will give him ms and damage, that's why it's decent.

[AnotherWorld]

@nabo. tough to upgrade it even em but let's not engage ap vs apem talk because i think the bot of ap games if getting roots ahahaha
I really like as you evoke, using dagon as a midas to get the money.

@Lynx ok ! didn't know since i rarely play bs. (maybe 5 games max!) i should try it more thx

[AnotherWorld]

BTW to be creative & unusual, what would you love to do with some heroes?

[nabo.]

@Anotherworld

Just because em games are filling more, doesnt mean more ppl like em. Trial tests already showed that mode and version dont really matter as long as the game fills faster.

Also, I never said use midas to get money for dagon.
The effectiveness or value of midas or dagon diminishes as the game goes on.
Ex. The value of a dagon at 4 minutes vs a dagon at 13 minutes is totally different because of higher hero skill level and items players would have farmed by 13 minutes making them tankier and harder to kill.

In short, the faster you farm it, the more effective dagon is.

[AnotherWorld]

When do you come play some with me -em .83d or .84?

[BiLyA]

if u buy dagon on riki, do it right or dont do it at all. dagon1, then eblade and after that upgrade to dagon5. its a viable item choice on riki like it is on gondar. in dota2 these heroes r played that way in competitive matches. also, 1200 elo from picking only riki? just lol.

if u wanna pubstomp tho, try agha refresher razor. noobs cant handle him.

[shooterball]

Speaking of random builds. Best way to counter a silencer is with BKB Refresher as an intel caster.

My favorite to counter a silencer is Witch Doctor.

First item BKB, then Aghams, then Refresher. So fucking OP and people would really never think that. The elo pool with just those items is enough to spam all items twice.