lihl multiple !sign option

[nabo.]

Currently, if a 2s game is in !sign process, a 4s game cannot be !sign and initiated.

It seems certain players are abusing !sign and !unsign to stall games from starting or preventing a new game from starting since if a 2s game is currently in !sign process, a 4s game cannot be also !sign for and initiated.

We have also removed access 1 from users, so itd be great to have this implemented so !lihlabort is not needed.

Suggestion: Make it possible so two lihl games can be hosted or at least two diff games can be !signed and initiated. So, probably have !sign !sign2 !sign3 (matching to !start !start2 !start3) as options and not allow someone signed for 2s be able to sign in 4s.

[supersexyy]

I don't think would be an improvement to the signing process. Sniping would be rampant.

[SLSGuennter]

I like it.
No more 15minutes wait cause somebody did !start2 and goes afk

[Diablo_]

I think this will cause more troubles than it will solve, e.g. people signing for multiple games, more delay in creating games, people being "sniped" because their game doesn't start and instead a different one for what ever reason (ppl not looking carefully), more chaos overall.

Just keep it the way it currently is imo.

[nabo.]

I think this will cause more troubles than it will solve, e.g. people signing for multiple games, more delay in creating games, people being "sniped" because their game doesn't start and instead a different one for what ever reason (ppl not looking carefully), more chaos overall.

Just keep it the way it currently is imo.

It seems my title is misleading. If you sign for lets say 2v2, you wont be able to sign for 4v4. You should get a reply such as "you are signed already for 2v2". Then, ud just need to !unsign2 and !sign for 4v4.

[Diablo_]

Other three points still stand tho

[nabo.]

Its sniping if people dont want to play a 2v2 u are voting to play? If ppl dont wanna 2s, instead of waiting it to expire to start a 4v4, just sign a 4v4 and the person can !unsign2 and !sign into 4s?

I thought this would help starting games faster. Perhaps my understanding of "sniping" is different. I thought it means losing ur spot bcz the game gets unhosted or u cant start a 4s cuz a 2s is currently being !signed. Can u clarify?

[SLSGuennter]

Its sniping if people dont want to play a 2v2 u are voting to play? If ppl dont wanna 2s, instead of waiting it to expire to start a 4v4, just sign a 4v4 and the person can !unsign2 and !sign into 4s?

Exactly.
Also, this annoying traps would not happen anymore

[Dong]

i like, and support your idea @nabo.

on the other hand, the only reason why we have these "problems" now is becuase, people are retarded and horny for games, so they rush into channel instantly typing !sign with no idea what so ever what they are signing into, for hereafter to complaint about being signed to that game that they signed to.. instead of other Normal people Like my self, who is not in a rush, and don't rush things, so i start with a simple !players command, and see what i am going to sign to, and tbh now and then, that move i make, cost me a spot in a 4s game, because some of these rushing amateurs comes along !signs and get lucky...

[pewpew lasergun]

good idea i think.
on paper at least.

the only problem i see like others said, is for example players creating 2x 4s at the same time, because they prefer to play with x player instead of y player.

although can restrict this by allowing only 1 type of game at a time.
still players can abuse by for example not signing to a 4s because they dont like players signed and make a 3s at the same time.
i think we'll never know till we try it. if it doesnt work could always revert back the changes.

i have a suggestion though for in lobby games.
if a 3s is made, and 2 ob players join and want to play
make a new command to make the 3s a 4s without rehosting, which will give the 3s players a vote option to agree to the 4s.
this will eliminate drama.
and same goes for using the !swap command.

for example 1

3s is made lihl100x
owner types !make4s
bot: the owner is making this 3s a 4s, if you agree type !yes.
if all 5 players type !yes, then ob can be swapped in.

example 2

3s is made lihl101x
owner types !allowswap
bot: the owner wants to swap players, if you agree type !yes.
if all 5 players type !yes, then the !swap command becomes available to owner

[SLSGuennter]

the only problem i see like others said, is for example players creating 2x 4s at the same time, because they prefer to play with x player instead of y player.

This obviously wouldnt be possible. Always max 1x 2s/3s/4s

[nabo.]

good idea i think.
although can restrict this by allowing only 1 type of game at a time.
still players can abuse by for example not signing to a 4s because they dont like players signed and make a 3s at the same time.
i think we'll never know till we try it. if it doesnt work could always revert back the changes.

People from either 4s or 3s can !unsign and !sign to either to start a game. Even if one player decides to make a 3s or 2s because they dont want to play 4s, I think in the end a game will start since all should want to play. So, I dont think this will be an issue.

for example 1

3s is made lihl100x
owner types !make4s
bot: the owner is making this 3s a 4s, if you agree type !yes.
if all 5 players type !yes, then ob can be swapped in.

Cant owner already swap obs in to make a 3s a 4s?

example 2

3s is made lihl101x
owner types !allowswap
bot: the owner wants to swap players, if you agree type !yes.
if all 5 players type !yes, then the !swap command becomes available to owner

Making the command !swap x y a vote is an idea. But, if owner swaps after seeing that all agree (current rule), should be fine.

[Dong]

!players. Before sign, thats your solution.

[pewpew lasergun]

what i meant nabo. is to remove the !swap command from the owner of the game.
it is only given to the owner in lobby after all players agree with a !yes vote.
same thing for the !unhost command.

the current rules are fine, but many drama posts in forum.
this will eliminate any reports about illegal swapping, illegal unhosting, and making a 3s to 4s without approval of all players.

[bugatti_veyron]

Great idea hope it happens soon.