Why Demo needs big time nerfing

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Why Demo needs big time nerfing

Postby NotYacapo » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:46 pm

Replay: https://entgaming.net/customstats/islan ... e/6623681/

In this game in the first 5 minutes i have doubles, In the first 10 minutes I have all 3 Greater Recipes from Merch, and Belth, do you understand that's atleast 20 summons for me in 10 minutes. I think dubs should cost alot more like 30 gold and 3000 lumber and to get Belth you need to have a Merch and ARC, then as Demo Once you have all that which is 65 gold you can spend the rest on health upgrades so It's not even fair to have 20 summons with my 700hp and on top of all that everytime i was cornered i had Nether lol, if you know how to play Demo IT'S NOT FAIR, later in the game im so powerful i get the Shadowcloak and really you can buy a titan's egg? Demo is OP needs nerfing bad. Watch that replay. Once this Titan had 2 minis I demolished them like it was nothing. Keep in mind this is up against a pretty good titan who got to lvl 13, im about to make a Demo: Rekt guide

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Re: Why Demo needs big time nerfing

Postby Lynx » Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:02 pm

Welcome to Island Defense 4.0.0

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Re: Why Demo needs big time nerfing

Postby ShadowZz » Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:30 pm

Welcome to people complaining about 4.0.0 and then no-one actually bothering to test new versions so it never gets updated.
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Re: Why Demo needs big time nerfing

Postby NotYacapo » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:05 pm

ShadowZz wrote:Welcome to people complaining about 4.0.0 and then no-one actually bothering to test new versions so it never gets updated.
Is there a way to test new version I would be happy to tell Neco everything that needs fixing (although it will never get done)

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Re: Why Demo needs big time nerfing

Postby ShadowZz » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:35 pm

Test: https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=153&t=63517

Still waiting for you to reveal who you actually are.....
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Re: Why Demo needs big time nerfing

Postby Stealer » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:39 pm

ShadowZz wrote:Welcome to people complaining about 4.0.0 and then no-one actually bothering to test new versions so it never gets updated.


Good flame.

Let's not forget we said that heavy armor summons were going to be op prior to that version being released.

It's been many months of 4.0, you think there hasn't been enough games for months that show demo needs a nerf?

It is not the fault of the players for neco releasing an op demo nor is it their fault for neco not fixing the broken demo.

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Re: Why Demo needs big time nerfing

Postby ShadowZz » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:49 pm

Again you haven't bothered looking at the new version. Demo has been nerfed in the latest version but until it's fully tested it will not be released. Among many other changes including the return of old commands. Playing the ENTID bot does not test the new version. 10 downloads as of right now. Only 2 downloads after it had been there almost 2 weeks until now yet everyone has plenty of time to complain about no new version and the current one having problems. Easy fix. Test the new version. Version gets updated. GG. Hmmmm...
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Re: Why Demo needs big time nerfing

Postby Neco » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:55 pm

https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=153&t=59078

Been out since August with Demonologist fixes. Just not on the bots as people don't test it, but if it goes on bots people complain when there are issues.
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Re: Why Demo needs big time nerfing

Postby Lynx » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:39 am

It's the developers responsibility to test the map, not the players. If Neco didn't want to spend anytime for that he shouldn't have started the project to begin with, as every day an unfinished version is on ENTID the ID crowd is diminishing.

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Re: Why Demo needs big time nerfing

Postby Neco » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:43 am

Lynx wrote:It's the developers responsibility to test the map, not the players. If Neco didn't want to spend anytime for that he shouldn't have started the project to begin with, as every day an unfinished version is on ENTID the ID crowd is diminishing.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

I spend days testing, I even stream it sometimes. But one person alone cannot realistically test a multiplayer game.
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Re: Why Demo needs big time nerfing

Postby Lynx » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:49 am

What is the reason for the 1+ year it has taken to release an unfinished update? You had tonnes of help a year ago, you should've been more productive then when people believed in you.

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Re: Why Demo needs big time nerfing

Postby Neco » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:55 am

The map has been remade, recoded, and retooled. It's a lot different behind the scenes than the mess 3.0.9d was.
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Re: Why Demo needs big time nerfing

Postby ShadowZz » Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:18 am

@Lynx Pro knowledge - Pretty much every game in existence gets beta tested. Alpha tests are where the developers test the game. Beta tests are where people who didn't make the game test the game.

Also those developers aren't alone and they actually have a budget and get paid to code/work on the project whilst not having to deal with retards who think they have more knowledge about how games work. Just a minor thing....
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Re: Why Demo needs big time nerfing

Postby aRt)Y » Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:39 am

Lynx wrote:It's the developers responsibility to test the map, not the players. If Neco didn't want to spend anytime for that he shouldn't have started the project to begin with, as every day an unfinished version is on ENTID the ID crowd is diminishing.
A developer is a developer; not a tester. You might wanna read some of its fields (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_developer).

Instead of blaming Neco for further investing time in a decade old Warcraft 3 game, you should support him. Just like any community, maps rely on its community and making him solely responsible for that is just bs.

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