[LTD] NOT HEALIN KING & BAN RULES

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[LTD] NOT HEALIN KING & BAN RULES

Postby Crazy_Skeleton » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:21 pm

U do not ban for using autoheal; like on lvl 7 with immo. Let assume that using heal was close and autoheal was used. Is it bannable? No it is not. Why? Beacause not other heal was used on that lvl. I gues we should use general conlusion, as I said before and written in d rules:
- Not healing the king is bannable, unless due to autoheal no more heals were needed to survive that very lvl
- If all above was done, still ur team lost a heal without oppenents team send due to ur not heal it is bannable as teamkill rule

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Plz do not end topic to fast as i hope it should be more opend to d public suggestions and approval or denied.

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Re: [LTD] NOT HEALIN KING & BAN RULES

Postby nabo. » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:40 pm

@crazy_skeleton

Since you PMed me and recreated the topic, I'll respond here.

Crazy_Skeleton wrote:1stly he should have hold next lvl. like ea holds lvl 5 or 4 yygs lvl 7, thats what u do.
2ndly, forget plz about that game, cause it is not the topic of my post what u have closed. I am talking about the modarating the rules. And I am sure that I am wright, in what of course we can disagree

Whether your mate holds or not depends wat he builds. He went dragon not 2 spawns.
If you were assuming he was gonna hold lvl 7, the more reason you SHOULD have HEALED at lvl 6 since youd have a better chance of living lvl 7.

If you did not want to talk about your case in your suggestion, you should not have mentioned about your ban.

As for making specific rules for no healing, I am not sure whether we need them as a pub rule.
Crazy_Skeleton wrote:U do not ban for using autoheal; like on lvl 7 with immo. Let assume that using heal was close and autoheal was used. Is it bannable? No it is not. Why? Beacause not other heal was used on that lvl. I gues we should use general conlusion, as I said before and written in d rules:

Whether we ban or not really depends on how many heals there are, whether it looks like a mistake or bad timing or intentional, delayed heal, impact to rest of game, etc.
- Not healing the king is bannable, unless due to autoheal no more heals were needed to survive that very lvl

Actually this depends also. If lets say my king has low regen and with autoheal i ended up with 300 hp after clearing everything vs someone used his holy light and ended up with 6000 HP, heal should have been used. We leak again next lvl, what happens? Do we ban for this? Depends whether it looks intentional and whether it has an impact to the rest of the game.

- If all above was done, still ur team lost a heal without oppenents team send due to ur not heal it is bannable as teamkill rule

Dont understand. Rephrase it plz.

You gotta understand that the fail heal system is NOT a replacement of your heal. Its there so games dont end from a mistake, delayed heal, or intentional no heal.
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Re: [LTD] NOT HEALIN KING & BAN RULES

Postby Crazy_Skeleton » Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:05 pm

Adnotation: Dont understand. Rephrase it plz.^^
"If all above was done, still ur team lost a heal without oppenents team send due to ur not heal it is bannable as teamkill rule"
My English may be not perfect, but it refers to :
"Actually this depends also. If lets say my king has low regen and with autoheal i ended up with 300 hp after clearing everything vs someone used his holy light and ended up with 6000 HP, heal should have been used. We leak again next lvl, what happens? Do we ban for this? Depends whether it looks intentional and whether it has an impact to the rest of the game."
ALL in all player should be banned as a teamkiller I would say. (and if he used autoheal, and another player had to use heal same round he should be banned for not healing king rule). We should distinguish those 2 rules, sice game ruiner rule is practicly never used.

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Re: [LTD] NOT HEALIN KING & BAN RULES

Postby Crazy_Skeleton » Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:15 pm

Fianlly, my Engish maybe not perfect but therefore plz do follow more carefully my thoughts and I hope! u will find some wisdom in them :D

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Re: [LTD] NOT HEALIN KING & BAN RULES

Postby Crazy_Skeleton » Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:24 pm

Another way:
if u do not heal d king, autoheal is used and another teamate have to use one more heal = u r banned for no healing king rule
if u do not heal d king, autoheal is used, no! other heal was needed for this lvl; next lvl ur team needs to heal d king cause of low hp of previos no heal (without sends) player can be banned for tk
If neither as above u can not be banned for not healing the king.
Actually it is all working wright now. Just no1 written that rules very carefully. Plz rewrite my thoughts in understandable way :)

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Re: [LTD] NOT HEALIN KING & BAN RULES

Postby nabo. » Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:26 pm

There are several things we need to consider to evaluate whether the no heal was intentional or was just a misheal due to a mistake or bad focus, then we gotta consider how much the no heal mattered = why brqs are treated case by case.
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Re: [LTD] NOT HEALIN KING & BAN RULES

Postby Crazy_Skeleton » Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:22 am

Well in my opinion it should be precisly written down, and less discretionary.
Nabo., I dunno how d rules r changed, who decise to change em, plz consider to talk about my suggestion with them. Cause seems I will not reach this topic.
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Seems thats all I could do about this topic :)

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Re: [LTD] NOT HEALIN KING & BAN RULES

Postby nabo. » Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:09 am

I left it open long enough as you requested.

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