Delays

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Delays rule needed?

Yes, ban all delays, but allow splitting to dd.
8
30%
Yes, limit delays to 80-120 value and allow splitting to dd.
13
48%
No, allow delays, everyone can build them.
6
22%
 
Total votes: 27

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Delays

Postby nabo. » Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:58 pm

Hello all,

The previous delay rule (120 value limit) was removed when we updated the new map because it was part of the clog rule.

Recently after obsing several lihl games, I am seeing few players asking in lobby before game, "No delays?" "Clean game?" etc for a gentlemen agreement.

Building delays is a legit strategy, however, too much "dead value" can be seen "unskillful" since the game is less about who holds better based on towers, but who leaks faster/slower delaying. Building high value delays such as hydras or slow aura delays such as polar/mag or upgraded tot to stall and leak slow because one clearly knows he will not hold or have crappy towers is bleh imo.

This topic is NOT about whether building delays is a strat or not, but to know what this league prefers and thinks is reasonable.

Vote your personal option and based on the result, we will make a rule if necessary.
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Re: Delays

Postby Dong » Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:01 pm

i would still like to keep delays for dd AND delay for pro leaks.. like if you want to send 15, try leaking 12 , 13, 14 etc..
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Re: Delays

Postby KinG23 » Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:45 pm

+1 to going back to making the max delay/split value limit to 120 for LIHL games. For example, Magnataur/Hydra delay really changes the dynamic of the game. While it is a very viable strategy, I believe it's best to have some sort of limitation.

By the way, I was not able to vote in the poll... there was no option.
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Re: Delays

Postby nabo. » Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:52 pm

@king23 Try now. Should work for you. You werent added to the lihl player forum group yet.
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Re: Delays

Postby KinG23 » Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:54 pm

nabo. wrote:@king23 Try now. Should work for you. You werent added to the lihl player forum group yet.


Works now, thanks!
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Re: Delays

Postby godlik3 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:12 pm

i dont fell like the entire league should vote on this
only the top and old players that understand all on this game
as i said
ilocos brave clear fiji beep me eldryan supersexxy trance ba achilles diablo etc
that players should vote and decide imo!
i am pretty sure if that players vote u gonna have like 99% of votes on 1 thing ( because they understand the game )

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Re: Delays

Postby nabo. » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:17 pm

godlik3 wrote:i dont fell like the entire league should vote on this
only the top and old players that understand all on this game
as i said
ilocos brave clear fiji beep me eldryan supersexxy trance ba achilles diablo etc
that players should vote and decide imo!
i am pretty sure if that players vote u gonna have like 99% of votes on 1 thing ( because they understand the game )

You want an oligopoly?

The poll is to see what everyone thinks. All lihl players can have their vote. Once poll is over, lihl mods will make a decision.

It would probably be better you state what you think instead, victor.
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Re: Delays

Postby Jubadus » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:19 pm

Another game ruined because they leak every lvl and 80+ on 17 but make hydra, hades, and mag as delays so they win. Pointless to play any more till this rule is updated. https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=6638608
(38:46 / All) Guennter: hades delay
(38:48 / All) Guennter: and hydra
(38:51 / All) Guennter: and polar

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Re: Delays

Postby SLSGuennter » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:21 pm

u would lose even without delay :D look at da sends, and 2heals less.
we didnt need 1 single heal when u died.
still was hilarious delay, i admit.
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Re: Delays

Postby Jubadus » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:24 pm

Guennter wrote:u would lose even without delay :D look at da sends, and 2heals less.
we didnt need 1 single heal when u died.
still was hilarious delay, i admit.

Because of your over the top delays and this is why there is a thread about it. This is just like how clogging used to be it is just a revision to make it work with the new map.

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Re: Delays

Postby 1007 » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:44 am

godlik3 wrote:i dont fell like the entire league should vote on this
only the top and old players that understand all on this game
as i said
ilocos brave clear fiji beep me eldryan supersexxy trance ba achilles diablo etc
that players should vote and decide imo!
i am pretty sure if that players vote u gonna have like 99% of votes on 1 thing ( because they understand the game )




wrong point
some old player liked delay
recently i has played many games
only diablo_,ba_fail,brave denied delay
(im not talking about 11,12,13,14 delay talking about 'race' lv delay)

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Re: Delays

Postby nabo. » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:10 am

Fair amount of votes so far. I dont think we need to drag this topic till next week.

Poll will close this weekend and after a discussion with staff, we will decide which options to go with.

Thanks for participation.
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Re: Delays

Postby nabo. » Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:22 pm

As vote suggests,

Delays will be restricted to 120 value.

Added two rules:
  • Do not build over 120 value of delay towers.
  • Do not intentionally split towers on sending levels.

If you would like to suggest a better wording, PM me.
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