All 2s games 15/15

[godlik3]

How do you think all 2s games with 15/15 elo?
The ballance will be the same high elo with low elo against the 2 others, but with 15/15 elo, players will play more 2s games!
Please if you dont like 2s mode dont vote, let the ppl that actualy enjoy that mode but dont play much because 20/10 elo vote before =)

[nabo.]

Makes sense to have 15/15 for 2s considering its harder to balance between 4 players and current way of elo discourages players to play 2s.

[Don_Killuminati]

Can work but it's advantage more higher elo players than lower.

[nabo.]

Could be 11/11-13/13 instead.

[supersexyy]

What exactly is the point of scaling down the elo to 11-13 @nabo. ??

[SLSGuennter]

Can work but it's advantage more higher elo players than lower.

Na, not rly.
If you have signed 1,5k/1k/1k/900 elo, then the 900 elo player always gets only 8 elo for his win. So he would also benefit from the 15/15.
It will just delete cases like wins-loss=0 and still 1,1k elo ^^ except for shrimp, cause he got his elo by dc-penaltys

[pewpew lasergun]

i dont think this should be done. it will affect the balance and give big advantage to high elo.
anyway 2s activity becomes only a pb towards the end of a season when players get very high.

maybe raise the cap to 12/18 max instead of 10/20.

dont change something that works, referring to the other thread about elo system change.

[KinG23]

i dont think this should be done. it will affect the balance and give big advantage to high elo.
anyway 2s activity becomes only a pb towards the end of a season when players get very high.

maybe raise the cap to 12/18 max instead of 10/20.

dont change something that works, referring to the other thread about elo system change.

Agreed with this! Definitely have some type of formula that caps ELO's with floors and ceilings, instead of all games 15/15, which would really benefit certain teams. The players with the lower ELO's should be rewarded more than 15 ELO if playing as heavy underdogs, instead of the favorites receiving a constant 15 ELO every game, which can make the system a bit unfair. As Pew suggested, 12/18 (13/17 as well) seems like very fair caps on ELO for 2's games. I'm sure more players will do 2's with some type of system that has ELO caps, I know I would.

!support for caps of 12/18 or 13/17!

Great idea.

[nabo.]

What exactly is the point of scaling down the elo to 11-13 @nabo. ??

My comment about 11/11-13/13 was a suggestion after reading don's comment that the 15/15 is more "advantage for higher elo players than lower."

Although 2v2 is different compared to 4v4, I thought maybe 2s should be scaled lower to balance the suggestion.

[supersexyy]

I think you're missing the point. Point is that usually games end up 1500, 900 vs 1050 1100 so the game becomes 20-10. So therefore this is a relative advantage to the higher elo players over the middle.
The suggestion is good though, overall it will get more games started.

[nabo.]

My first post:

Makes sense to have 15/15 for 2s considering its harder to balance between 4 players and current way of elo discourages players to play 2s.

I got the point which is why I agreed that making elo gain and loss the same was a good idea for 2v2 since elo avg difference between the teams can tilt more than in 4v4 where you have more people. But, after don's comment that higher elo players will benefit more over others, I thought scaling it down to 12/12 or to 13/13 would be fair. Although 2v2 is unique of its own, personally, I think 4v4 games should worth more, but thats just me.

[Dong]

i think we should just keep it the way it is tbh..

the elo is suppose to represent skills, and if you are high elo vs low elo, your chance of winning should therefore be higher than usual, wich is why you win
less elo.

[nabo.]

@godlik3

Topic moved from lihl to suggestions for implementation.

[uakf.b]

What is 2s game

[godlik3]

2s games r 2v2 @uakf.b