Some good ideas

[godlik3]

I have senn ppl abusing of requesting dc pentaltys...i dont even need to say that is shrimp.
dc penalties should be asked when u lose a lot of time, or when you sure that you gonna win the game and someone on other team dc's
Ppl are u sing dc just to get revange of another ppl that they dont like, or to gain pure elo.
I mean, he knows he gonna lose the game and someone dc and this guy win more then 15 elo when he asks for a dc penalty ( 15 from not losing the game + 4 from dc )
A good example: i got a dc penalty from a game that the host didnt even pick the mode ( its insane )
My idea is, no one can ask for more dc's than another player.
Exemple: everybody can ask for 2 dc penalty, but when he asks for a third one he need to w8 at least 1 more lihl player request 2 dc
and this keep going, if the player asks for 4 dc's penalties he need to w8 untill at least 1 more player request 3 dc penalties.
I think this will be really good.

Another ideia.
We all !sign for a game, and elo ballance like it does nowadays on bots
But, when we do swaps, elo should remain the one that he already cauculated
This way we can do all games captain modes on loby and the elo will always be ballanced like the bot did on first time!

So what u think?

[dweiler]

Your poll is bad. You should make it like this:

1. I like both ideas
2. I only like idea 1
3. I only like idea 2
4. I don't like both ideas.

Besides that, dc penalty is there to deter possible PPs. The effectiveness of that is coupled with the amount of dcs reported. So looking at it from the goal of the dc penalty it should be encouraged that dc penalties are applied as often as possible, not less often by finding partners.

The second one I don't really understand. Do you want to be able to swap teams without the Elo changing?

[Bourne]

I think abusing DC pens is a bit unfair. I didn't even know how these work until recently when I saw shrimp (Titan) had 1200 ELO with only 5 more wins than losses. It's a sure way to get ELO for a game you weren't guaranteed to win, and you can even get ELO if someone on your own team disconnects in a game you were losing. Not sure exactly how to handle this but you shouldn't be able to accumulate +150 ELO purely from these reports. It makes balance unfair later on.

[godlik3]

yes
swaping teams without elo changing
so we can make captain mode on lobby all games and elo wont be 15/15 it wil be 14.63/14,47 etc so wont be a win/lose rate

[Artichoke]

Seems like a good idea. People shouldn't just be allowed to abuse the system freely.

[cam_breezy]

i dont understand how it can be abuse??? its not abuse to report a dc when someone dc'd. that person ruined game by disconnecting and should be punished for doing so. we've already tried to discuss other options for dc's and it doesnt really work because people would just pp. truthfully i think the best option would be to just take the elo system out of lihl all together and we can just rank the clan based on win/loss ratio. that way if anybody dc's we can draw a game, but the person that dc'd would get the loss on their record and nobody else has gains anything from the dc.

p.s. your poll makes no sense

[godlik3]

i dont understand how it can be abuse??? its not abuse to report a dc when someone dc'd. that person ruined game by disconnecting and should be punished for doing so. we've already tried to discuss other options for dc's and it doesnt really work because people would just pp. truthfully i think the best option would be to just take the elo system out of lihl all together and we can just rank the clan based on win/loss ratio. that way if anybody dc's we can draw a game, but the person that dc'd would get the loss on their record and nobody else has gains anything from the dc.

p.s. your poll makes no sense

u r a freaking elo hunter...really! u ask dcs from everybody...even if u gonna lose the game u ask for dc,
instead of beeing thankfull for the dc, u ask for penalty.
thats not game ruin, its luck from u and u flufying want more elo anyways

[supersexyy]

Whilst you've identified two 'problems' these aren't two solutions..

[godlik3]

@supersexyy how about u elaborate the solutions then?
i couldnt think on other better one! i just think its not perfect but should work good enought

[supersexyy]

Well two solutions for the dc problem is either automated or semi automated (player initiated automated system ie anonymous) dc penalty systems

As for the balancing we can just use a balancing command.

[cam_breezy]

how is my idea not a solution? remove elo system. simple. ranks are based on win/loss ratio. clearly elo doesnt prove anything in this league as so many have said.

-remove elo system
-people that dc and are reported = loss, others draw gain nothing and lose nothing.

[nabo.]

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