An upgraded wotw

[ShadowZz]

In my opinion it is currently balanced. I'd rather see a new idea for a new item that "counters" stuff rather than a buff to a item that already counters. Something like an item that range slows a unit to 30% move speed for 5 seconds could be insanely useful vs any builder w/o a panic. Just an idea....

[Burn]

I didn't read all your responses, but I agree with the WOTW upgrade to make the game more fun.

Eternal WOTW:
WOTW x 3 + 5G recipe
= Eternal WOTW.

Titanic WOTW:
Eternal WOTW + 20G recipe
= Titanic WOTW (passable WOTW)

Could be fun. Numbers can be tweaked.

EDIT: WOTW x 2 + 5G recipe = eternal -> WOTW x 3 + 5g recipe = eternal

-Burn

[Haunt]

Burn's suggestion sounds kinda OP imo... Numbers must be tweaked.

[idtitan]

I think having it the same as eternal wards / titanic wards if fair... My example! xD

-Kent

[Burn]

Burn's suggestion sounds kinda OP imo... Numbers must be tweaked.

Suggestions please?

-Burn

[BeeKauzh]

Keep in mind wand is nearly useless when attacking a base.
Spent too much gold on that and you won't break bases.

I think Eternal should cost between 20~30 gold.
Titanic (if there is one) should cost between 30~45 gold.

This idea has already been brought up to Neco before btw.

[ShadowZz]

Ok, so I agree that this is a fun idea. It is a fun idea. It's something that improves the usefulness of an item which doesn't get used "as much" as before.

However instead of buffing an item that already counters things and works why can't you simply encourage more items that are useful counters. I had this conversation yesterday and imo it would be better for ID and titans in general to have more options for countering builders rather than buffing the ones that are already there. If wotw gets buffed in this way then whatever counter item gets introduced will simply go unused.

There's plenty of other ways you can counter builders and the only ones right now are > attacking(derp):D>ww>nuke> all abilities so far so that's a bit of a meh :/ > then we move to items > wotw > mirror ( i understand quite a few people think it's crappy) > wc (another ww) > ward block.

There's not many other ways. Feel free to add to that list.

Other counter items could be things like a Wand of Slow which causes the builders movespeed to be reduced to 30%. A few months ago there was a conversation that @Neco brought up yesterday (his idea) about titan being able to use a Wand of Illusion to create an illusion of the titan that deals no damage and could be detted with a worker but it would allow for interesting play/mind games.

All I'm saying I'm saying is that adding more utility items to the titan would be better than constantly buffing the ones he already has.

[lordmillt]

is it only me that misses the triple wand on builders with ww or panic or tps? ;c remove cd will end dis! kek