[LoD] Twee@useast

[wnrdj01]

Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 741871.w3g
Game Name: [ENT] LoD -sdems6bod2 #86
Your Warcraft III Username: castiel_
Violator's Warcraft III Username: twee@useast
Violated Rule(s): glitching; rearm and flame guard
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): from the start
Any further thoughts:
He picked rearm and flame guard. I told him that it's bannable to pick them but he wouldn't listen.
Then he would keep stacking flame guard in game such as once he sat in the fountain for about 2 mins to stack flame guard.
https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.p ... ed#p281583
The above url is one of the processed ban requests regarding the combo.

[Setharias]

Yes it does seem Hyo banned another person for 5 days doing this same abuse if this guy did the exact same thing then I agree it should be banned as soon as possible, confirmed in chat logs he was warned not to do it and he even admitted it was not patched.

(06:12 / Allied) twee: i would have gone rearm flameguard
(06:14 / Allied) twee: lol
(06:27 / Allied) World: i think its patched
(06:32 / Allied) twee: it's not
(06:54 / Allied) castiel_: rearm flameguard is bannable

He knowingly exploited a bannable glitch bumping post.

[s0ceN]

In my opinion if it's pickable during pickphase, and not told in advance during the bot-announcements or in the forums, it shouldnt be bannable.

How are people supposed to know if a combo is bannable or not, if it's not written in the rules section of the wiki, neither announced in-game and pickable as a combo? I.e. rearm wrath, or rearm wards is not pickable. If it truly is bannable to pick rearm flameguard, then it shouldn't be pickable. Atleast make a statement about it somewhere.. If we have to go through the processed ban section of the forum to get an idea of what's bannable or not, it's a rediculous way of implementing the ban rules.

So TL;DR: Make a sticky post on the forums, where all the bannable combos are shared, so we have something clear to relate to. To ban people without giving them clear guidlines is a joke.

[F-Train]

when did we ban rearm + flameguard? @hyo

[Yondaime]

This is where common sense comes into play if you are exploiting something that obviously should be fixed.

@s0cen Taken from the Wiki rules of Ent Games, #6: Do not purposely glitch or exploit the game. (seems like a pretty good guideline to me)

This is obviously a huge exploit of the game considering the amount of damage that is able to be procured is more then what even a one shot combo can do or could do.

The fact that also he well knowingly did it despite that it was a glitch in the game is even worse as if he is taking pride into it. The fact that someone else has been banned for this offense is even increasingly a reason why this user should be banned for more then the allotted time since he did it full knowingly.

I dont know what happened to the rules that I had placed in set for Dota LOD perhaps because all of them had been fixed, i.e the swapping bugs etc.

[F-Train]

Just because it is op doesn't make it a glitch. This combo actually worked since 6.78 lod. If it were a glitch then it should've been fixed already. I asked ResQ regarding this combo and he said this is actually normal Warcraft III behavior. He is planning to nerf this next version. I do not believe we should ban op builds.

[Yondaime]

Something this OP would be banned in LoD if they nerfed the 1 shot builds and stopped people from using Rearm ROC. I feel it is a glitch, its like being able to rearm ion shell and put multiple on yourself, if you can do that then fine let the ban go but if not then I feel this is a glitch of a skill that should not be stacking on itself just refreshed.

@Hyo you were the one who banned for it previously what do you take of it now??

[Hatedmaru]

@F-train Since rearm + flameguard stack (If it was during last versions, im not sure since it wasn't reported - Yet flame guard doens't reset his armor, but stacks - When you rearm and activate it, you should obviously only have 1 charge of ember guard, not 10000 if you keep rearming); Also would be nice if you read suggestions to stay up-to-date https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=72493

[Jiminy_Cricket]

Yes hyo is correct. It's not like you can rearm exorcism and still have all the spirits from before.

[Hatedmaru]

After reviewing:

He coulnd't have read what blue said since he ignored blue before, anyways twee@useast.battle.net banned for 5 days (starts around 22 minutes replay timer, the first time he did it)

Thanks for reporting

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