Rules are rules? Or not? Or yes?

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Rules are rules? Or not? Or yes?

Postby SLSGuennter » Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:51 pm

nabo. wrote:Rule is rule.

supersexyy wrote:There is a rule which clearly says do not drop, is there any further information??


So why did i get dc-pen here? Just a question ...
https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=215&t=72084

Because the:
Don_Killuminati wrote:@guennter dc reverse and apply for gproxy, u got dropped after 180sec.

simply is not true.

(24:21 / All) BeepBoopBeep: Player [1007] voted to drop laggers.
(24:21 / All) BeepBoopBeep: Player [god.lik3] voted to drop laggers.
(24:21 / All) BeepBoopBeep: Guennter lagged out (dropped by vote).

If it would be 180seconds, then i get AUTODROPPED.
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Re: Rules are rules? Or not? Or yes?

Postby nabo. » Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:36 pm

@Guennter

I clearly explained to you already.

Spoiler!
(24:21 / All) BeepBoopBeep: ANNOUNCEMENT: If King has more than 12k HP, heal EARLY instead of waiting for very low HP to avoid no heal due to delay.
(24:21 / Allied) dweiler: this will be sad if he rly laggs out
(24:21 / All) Guennter: Please wait for me to reconnect (115 seconds remain).
(24:21 / All) Guennter: Please wait for me to reconnect (95 seconds remain).
(24:21 / All) dweiler: guennter take loss like a man ^^
(24:21 / All) Guennter: Please wait for me to reconnect (75 seconds remain).
(24:21 / All) Guennter: Please wait for me to reconnect (55 seconds remain).
(24:21 / All) 1007: so this is last count down?
(24:21 / All) god.lik3: really i am imortal
(24:21 / All) god.lik3: zzz
(24:21 / All) god.lik3: hydra mutant
(24:21 / All) Guennter: Please wait for me to reconnect (35 seconds remain).
(24:21 / All) elektro-: we are 3 tok and 2 mutant
(24:21 / All) elektro-: :(
(24:21 / All) Guennter: Please wait for me to reconnect (15 seconds remain).
(24:21 / All) god.lik3: hydra better
(24:21 / All) BeepBoopBeep: Player [1007] voted to drop laggers.
(24:21 / All) BeepBoopBeep: Player [god.lik3] voted to drop laggers.
(24:21 / All) BeepBoopBeep: Guennter lagged out (dropped by vote).
(24:21 / QUIT) Guennter: Disconnect
(24:26 / Allied) dweiler: !draw
(24:26 / All) BeepBoopBeep: Player [dweiler] has voted to draw the game. 4 more votes are needed to pass the draw vote.

The last log from gproxy was 15 seconds. You were dropped after that during "lag screen" which we do not know how long it was...whether it be 5 seconds or 10 seconds. Yes, they did drop you when they were not suppose to, but seeing you were gonna get dropped, you got the dc penalty. The intention of the rule is to give players enough time to reconnect instead of people voting to droping in 30 seconds. The rule was fairly new then, but now that a week or so has passed, we will enforce the rule with less flexibility ofc. Any time when new rules are implemented, we are lenient during the first week or so.

If you wish to argue that you would have reconnected during the last 5-10 seconds, you can show me an instance you reconnected during the last 10 seconds of gproxy before on any ent game and ill acknowledge the probability, not possibility.
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Re: Rules are rules? Or not? Or yes?

Postby Diablo_ » Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:38 pm

I've seen people reconnect at 5ish seconds already, how do you know Guennter was going to dc?
Should be reverted imo.
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Re: Rules are rules? Or not? Or yes?

Postby SLSGuennter » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:34 pm

nabo. wrote:Yes, they did drop you when they were not suppose to, but seeing you were gonna get dropped, you got the dc penalty. The intention of the rule is to give players enough time to reconnect instead of people voting to droping in 30 seconds.

Seeing i was gonna get dropped, they can drop me ... hm, so its ok to drop cause people cant reconn in last 10sec of countdown? or in last 11,12,13,14 seconds? or last 15,16,17,20,30,40sec? Why do we have the no-drop rule then anyway?

nabo. wrote:The rule was fairly new then, but now that a week or so has passed, we will enforce the rule with less flexibility ofc. Any time when new rules are implemented, we are lenient during the first week or so.

Thats why i never asked for an unvouch on the people dropping me, but only to not dc-pen me.

nabo. wrote:If you wish to argue that you would have reconnected during the last 5-10 seconds, you can show me an instance you reconnected during the last 10 seconds of gproxy before on any ent game and ill acknowledge the probability, not possibility.

Like Diablo said, it happens that people reconn in last seconds ... i cant give you an example of myself, since i seldom experience connection-lags cause my internet is fast and stable normaly. But i saw this by marlboro or godlike quite often, the last-second-reconn.
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Re: Rules are rules? Or not? Or yes?

Postby nabo. » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:34 pm

Guennter wrote:Seeing i was gonna get dropped, they can drop me ... hm, so its ok to drop cause people cant reconn in last 10sec of countdown? or in last 11,12,13,14 seconds? or last 15,16,17,20,30,40sec? Why do we have the no-drop rule then anyway?

Quite simple.

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=6738526
Spoiler!
[/(24:21 / All) BeepBoopBeep: Player [1007] voted to drop laggers.
(24:21 / All) BeepBoopBeep: Player [god.lik3] voted to drop laggers.
(24:21 / All) BeepBoopBeep: Guennter lagged out (dropped by vote).
(24:21 / QUIT) Guennter: Disconnect

@1007 @godlik3
You are prohibited from voting to drop someone. Need to wait full 180 seconds. Read announcement rule. Warned.

Now, they got official warning.
I thought about no dc penalty for every case where people do vote to drop, but that seems not fair or against the purpose of dc penalty. Therefore, it'll be warning unvouch or verbal unvouch for those who break the rule. If you got dropped during the first half, I may listen ear to your request, but since I think you were more unlikely to reconnect, no.
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