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Re: hi

Postby tariqtd » Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:30 am

I miss you HBC and I hope you come back soon my brother
I support him 100% because :
1- HBC decent person
2- HBC build as good as anyone of us
3- HBC help me when I was newly vouched and support me in my start and this help make me builld better
4- HBC was good and active mode imo ......... even when I got my first ban request he did not ban me he just explain for me my mistake
5- HBC is incent in my eyes ...... because he never call sends in game so in this way the MH is useless.
As incent person he try to come back with his name and he is trying to clear his reputation
before few days we lost wolke and sony not playing anymore and ........ please give the man another chance
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Re: hi

Postby Scud » Thu Dec 17, 2015 12:04 pm

I support him Too.

I still doubt if he use MH.. cuz he is really suck at computer thing except for playing W3.

He even has problem with install Groxy .....how can he use MH...I really doubt that :)

I heard from him ... he buy new computer for SS test .

I think it is time to give him another chance to play lihl .

He is one of good man with good manner.

I miss him too.

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Re: hi

Postby dweiler » Thu Dec 17, 2015 12:14 pm

I don't understand the comments in this thread? He is banned for maphack, it's no popularity contest.. I don't see how any support or 'trust' poll is relevant here.. At this moment he is proven to maphack, the only way he can ever return to the league is if he shows how he can fail the SS-test without maphacking. If he doesn't he should never get into the league again, just like all the other people who maphacked.
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Re: hi

Postby SLSGuennter » Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:24 pm

Scud wrote:I support him Too.

I still doubt if he use MH.. cuz he is really suck at computer thing except for playing W3.

It is a proven fact, that he once had a maphack installed to, cause he wanted to, lets call it "troll" gog.
So im sure he knows how to install mh, and with this SS, i have no doubt he did use it in LIHL.

I dont see, why a player who doesnt even admit it, should get unbanned on ENT before 1 year elapsed, and even get back into LIHL.

I also miss him in LIHL, as a "nice to play with guy", but this shouldnt have impact here imo.
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Re: hi

Postby ILOCOS_NORTE » Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:20 pm

@healbycolor

I wasnt very active when u got banned, so one question.

It seems that, in the end, you did take a screenshot (with a corrupted mini map?!?).

Why couldnt you upload the *tga file then, can u just not find the file? It must be on your computer ?!?

Do you have Team Viewer? Let me have a look and I'll search your files, maybe I'll find the *tga ;)

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Re: hi

Postby HealByColor » Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:52 pm

I could not find the tga file. I do not have team viewer I suggested someone doing that before when I actually owned that computer I replaced that computer now when I take a screen shot it actually got to the ss folder.
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Re: hi

Postby pewpew lasergun » Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:15 pm

nabo. poll shows a majority of the community willing to take you back.
Regardless of what happened, should you be admitted to lihl again, i think the probability of you maphacking is very low.

I hope we play again in lihl, best of luck.

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Re: hi

Postby archol » Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:22 pm

May i ask why the one and only Drahque revouch-appeal got denied?

I remember he even wrote that he offered to make screenshots each game, how about in this case too?

And i greatly doubt HBC is more stupid than Gog in term of handling computer stuffs

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Re: hi

Postby nabo. » Thu Dec 17, 2015 10:04 pm

As far as i remember, drahque was really toxic ingame and on forum.

I understand that there should be higher standards to a league, but there is no such thing as "unappealable" on ENT, since this goes against our principles. We can deny appeals though ofc.

There is nothing wrong with giving someone (w/e they did) a chance to appeal themselves.

If a high number percentage (85%+), not simply 51% majority, are able to trust the player and give him a chance and the majority of lihl mods also think so, I do not see a problem.

Currently, hbc is being questioned for ban dodging. He can clear that up himself with ent mods first. His re-vouch was denied due to not meeting the set "yes" requirement, which is probably why he posted this topic.
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Re: hi

Postby dweiler » Thu Dec 17, 2015 10:42 pm

nabo. wrote: If a high number percentage (85%+), not simply 51% majority, are able to trust the player and give him a chance and the majority of lihl mods also think so, I do not see a problem.


You know what maphacking is, right? It is not breaking a rule in the heat of the moment. It is knowingly secretly installing something on your computer to deceive everyone else in the league for your own benefit. It is something that stands against everything in a league, more than any other offence. It's just ridiculous to then ask the community if he is to be trusted, because HE HAS PROVEN he cannot be trusted. Why on earth do you need a poll for this? All you get from this is not whether he can be trusted, but how many people like him, and basing a decision on how-well liked someone is favoritism, and I doubt ENT stands for that?

This guy just has to be treated fairly: he has to show us that he failed the SS-test without maphacking (and that is the way his ban should be appealable of course, not by popularity.......................................................).
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Re: hi

Postby nabo. » Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:16 pm

Ok, to clarify:

The survey poll was for me and staff to consider. There was never an official public poll or an appeal.
I did not say that just because many people trust him, he will be re-vouched or unbanned.
Prior to hbc posting this, I told him he would not be revouched at this point due to not enough number of people trusting him (yes, it is important in my book) and obviously, those who said "no" having suspicions that he would still mh.

What are my thoughts regarding his mh case? You can PM and ask me.
This topic was hbc posting what he can do, thats it. I do not think like and trust are the same thing.
Anyway, as I said, he still has to appeal for his dodging suspicion first before anything in lihl.
Oh and no, lihl, now, is not the lihl long ago.
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