New Match Making?

[KinG23]

I'm very against this new random match making system for all games to be 15 ELO with random teams with no balance. ELO is there so low elo players get to learn and play with high elo players, and for more balanced games. After just a taste of this system in "trial" today, it is just plain awful in my opinion and compromises the whole point of ELO, and will result in many more games being skewed. Non-balanced games drain the fun out of the league.

Will it be like this for the whole season or just temporarily? In case opinions are being tallied, I vote for the old system back.

EDIT: Added poll.

[eldryan]

presumably temporary, but the teams in that game weren't that inaccurate. it's just activity levels differ. ELO doesn't mean anything anymore, with 15/15 games in 2v2 regardless of ELO.

[Lord-Miles]

Dunno what is that system but today i got 2 games on 2s 29.96 vs 0.4 elo... i know its 15/15 but the players..

[dweiler]

Non-balanced games drain the fun out of the league.

It's funny you say this, for me the balance gets the fun out of the league, because the match making is always in such a way that skill is divided evenly among players, so that merely roll luck decides the game. I'm glad some games are decided by skill now, it makes people actually try hard to improve. Besides, what is better for a league than that everybody has the same chance on the same allies for the entire season and we see in the end who won most?

[KinG23]

Dunno what is that system but today i got 2 games on 2s 29.96 vs 0.4 elo... i know its 15/15 but the players..

Yeah that's what will happen for the new season which sucks.

t's funny you say this, for me the balance gets the fun out of the league

The balance does not take the fun out of the league, it ensure for even and competitive games. Don't know why you push for this so hard when you play pub more than LIHL anyways, Mick. A few games yesterday we ALREADY did the math in the lobby and swapped to make the teams even to avoid this system.

[Diablo_]

I'm no big fan of that system either, but just give it a try. If it turns out to be less fun for the majority I'm sure it will be changed again.

[Krayyzie]

Im not sure which i like most, but I gotta admit I think its a good idea to test it, in theory, this will give more accurate ELOs, as Mickey says, balanced teams makes most games very even, this way, more players will be forced to "lead" and hopefully it leads to more players learning how to make calls and adept to game rather than listening to players. And the best players will win more games this way.

I guess we´ll find out how this works, and as King23 wrote, there is always the option to swap people into balanced team if people agrees to doing that.

[eldryan]

I think if you stop making all games 15/15, it would be less of a fail system. why do top players always chicken out of +1-29 games? Time to play them. Let ELO mean something more than winning "balanced" games every time.

[Lord-Miles]

Well system is ok , but why all games is 15/15?

[RadiantCrystal]

@Lord-Miles Because it's a balance of offset the random team shuffle.

[AvadaKedavra]

New system? Random teams with forced 15/15? Uhm? This will create very unbalanced games (4 top elo players vs 4 bottom etc.)

Means the higher elo players will have easier games, since they wont get "dragged" down by lesser players to even things out. Lesser players will get punished harder since they wont always have high elo players to "carry" them.

Is this a good thing? Why does every other game with competitive matchmaking seek "balanced" teams? Dota 2, League of Legends, Counter Strike you name it. Because it is NOT fun to get smashed by better players period. Imagine bottom 4 playing against top 4 in lihl. I'm sure the high elo players would love it and have a blast, but it comes at the cost of the lesser players getting a spanking.

Btw people saying every game is 50/50 and decided by luck etc. Yes.. Once elos have manifested, games will be close. Since the elo system actually works more or less. A balanced elo system MEANS 50/50 games ultimately. That's the point of balance lol -.-

[KinG23]

So let's put this back to normal now please?

Avada also explains nicely.

[Lord-Miles]

I Suggest if we play on this system lets play for the real elo ?? today i got a 2 games on 2s score was like 26 or 29 vs 1 ...

Or atleast play for the real elo on 3s or 4s , why is that system since we play for 15elo all the games?

[KinG23]

@eldryan @Diablo_ @Lord-Miles @AvadaKedavra @Krayyzie @MickeyTheMousie

Added a poll.

[RadiantCrystal]

I think the old way is ok, never caused major dispute. The new system looks like it's failing at the moment.

Although we can give it some more time to see...