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Re: Unfair players LIHL

Postby KinG23 » Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:10 pm

What distasteful behavior in that game? Wolke and dr.awkward were adamant about not drawing, and patarinsky from other team said play on. I barely spoke and just played, breaking no rules.

Not to mention, this is NOT even an unvouch request for any user from that game, OP just posted the game.

Nevertheless you cant compare this league with real life situations - in honor of sportmanship i decided to ban him, although its not stated in the rules - thus i also broke a rule in this case more or less, and therefore ill take the consequences


Would appreciate a resignation from you. @archol

Unvouching without breaking any rules is some ugly stuff.
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Re: Unfair players LIHL

Postby Nore » Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:18 pm

Fact of the matter is.. there is nothing here to be banned for. If he flamed, then sure, because he was given a warning for flaming, but this is totally separate. Since when do people get banned for "distasteful behavior"? If that were the case, there would be many bans.. but since there is no rule for that, I think it's pretty clear some boundaries were stretched here. Whether it was a good thing to not draw or not is questionable.. but so is alot that goes on in LIHL. Nevertheless, this is no grounds to unvouch someone; never has been, and until a rule is made about it, never will be.
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Re: Unfair players LIHL

Postby KinG23 » Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:20 pm

@archol

Unvouch yourself for distasteful play/behavior? Under your logic, this is warranted.

https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=74822
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Re: Unfair players LIHL

Postby archol » Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:26 pm

Ill resign immediately if im wrong in regard of your situation - instead of being grateful for this low duration ban or that i approved an unbanning later, you should also consider the final warning nabo. gave you

In the admin section there were several topics regarding toxic behaviour and instead of taking actions some mods prefer to go on with warnings and warnings and not even enforcing anything etc. Although i supported it in the case of a final warning, i also demanded a more strict route against such behaviour for the future and thus also enforce it now, even if its not in the rule (now).

Dont know what the other mods did before me, i know at least they didnt do much because i left the league also because of drama.

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Re: Unfair players LIHL

Postby KinG23 » Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:27 pm

I'm not unbanned yet from what I see.

There was no rule broken, so anything prior has nothing to do here. So, you are wrong in this situation. Would you arrest someone as a police officer when they are sitting on a bench doing or saying nothing wrong? Nope!

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Re: Unfair players LIHL

Postby Dong » Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:29 pm

i am a big fan of sportsmanship my self.

But, This ban is not justified imo.
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Re: Unfair players LIHL

Postby aRt)Y » Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:31 pm

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Re: Unfair players LIHL

Postby Dong » Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:33 pm

Dong wrote:i am a big fan of sportsmanship my self.

But, This ban is not justified imo.


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Re: Unfair players LIHL

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Re: Unfair players LIHL

Postby RadiantCrystal » Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:48 pm

Update:Since Archol already said he would re-vouch king but he didn't, I will revouch him for now

Alright i dont mind unbanning him now after reading sonycrockett post (thus he got my approval)
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Re: Unfair players LIHL

Postby aRt)Y » Tue Feb 16, 2016 5:08 pm

As usually, there's need for clarification regarding administrative procedures. Moderators of a league do not have to rely on reports only. They can enforce the rules themselves when they see it necessary.

If you feel unfairly unvouched, post an appeal.

Moderators decide on judgments on a daily basis. These judgments are usually subject to discussion and no reason to call out for resignations just because you disagree with it. People would call such attitude "toxic".

Considering there were indeed no rules violated, the re-vouch has been granted and the case is closed.
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