[ID] sedlimitted europe.battle.net

[ShadowWeaver]

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=7406065
Game Name: [ENT] Island Defense #47
Your Warcraft III Username: shadowweaver
Violator's Warcraft III Username: sedlimitted
europe.battle.net
Violated Rule(s): TK/refuse to learn
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): 14:00 gametime
Any further thoughts:

[road-kill]

Shadow are you having a problem with all the noobs on island defense? Your apparently trying to get them all ban, try to communicate with them... It's simple... Say to them share control and they will listen.

[ShadowWeaver]

no, i'm getting rid of the trolls. People that are new are different i.e when hafk started out etc... he was learning. Some people just don't listen = get mad = rage feed/ruin game.

I've met a lot of people that are new and that want to learn.

Met a whole other bunch that are just there because DotA is full and want to troll.

Or they think they're better than everyone else so don't want to listen.

Also, i'm noob js

[linker1]

I watched replay so i will try to comment

1:24 Purple showed base ,,typical for new player" here, he did not know what does what so he constructed 3 different buildings and started harvesting wood using ONLY builder, till ----
2:01 ----- Titan come and destroyed half of his things(important note: Purple started attacking him with main builder and stopped after 3 seconds realizing its bad idea(normal for newbie)), he (Titan) backed afterwards since he probably found out Purple is newbie and that he shouldn't do this (feeding on new players).
7:19 Red noticed Purple is doing base mistake (more than 6 cages) and try to explain it to him
8:27 Red asks Purple for share control, his request gets ignored
9:33 Yellow votekick Purple
9:59 Purple finally states that he is newbie and that he is learning how game works
10:21 Yellow completely destroy Purple base.
13:02 from this point Purple starts killing Yellow units & Teal units & Orange units,
13:34 Yellow votekick Green
14:08 Teal votekick Purple
14:57 Purple gets kicked
19:00 Green asks Yellow to quit his base, soon after (around 3 minutes) Murlock moves away


To autor (about rule violations):
First, i agree with @shadowweaver , for whole game sedlimitted refused any communication with team and tried to play on his own, even if he doesnt know rules/gameplay, he should ask or at least listen to more experienced people to avoid gameruining.
Secondly, again i agree with you @shadowweaver - he teamkilled, but i partially disagree with your actions here, there is big chance you triggered his teamkilling, but here new things is coming up that can justify your actions (at least a little), to specify @sedlimitted 's total lack of communication.
So still you get 2/2 rule violations, exactly the ones you stated in thread.

Now i feel obligated to comment your way of handling things:
You rush things too fast, you are not thinking about consequences, if you didnt teamkill @sedlimitted he could stay passive or even start listening PROBABLY, i want to recall last words of Titan player after kicking @sedlimitted out because he started teamkilling:

(14:57 / All) Riskwar: look
(14:57 / All) voodoo_chile: thx
(15:01 / All) voodoo_chile: he was team killing
(15:04 / All) GoodSamaritan: whatev
(15:08 / All) GoodSamaritan: u prolly killed his shit

Quite a bullseye dont we agree? Next thing about you rushing is that you voted to kick osug just because someone destroyed your building/unit. You gave him 4 seconds only to reply :

(13:30 / Allied) ShadowWeaver: osug you cunt fuck
(13:34 / Allied) ShadowWeaver: !votekick osug

This votekick abuse is in my opinion caused by your rush to find culprit or relieve anger. To add ,,When you initiate a !votekick, you should clearly explain "Who" and "How" the violator is game ruining via all chat.''. To sum up, i want to make you realize that you shouldnt act too fast, even if game is at stake.


@SeDLiMitteD should be banned for feeding
Do not ruin the game on purpose:
Do not feed or suicide on purpose which negatively affects the game.
It is possible to game ruin by being new. In this case, votekick will only be valid if the new player refuses to learn and cooperate. Just because someone is a newbie or bad does not mean he is intentionally game ruinning.
@SeDLiMitteD should be banned for teamkilling @jeb021123 and @rega and @ShadowWeaver
Do not ruin the game on purpose:
Do not teamkill (ex. blocking, maliciously using spells, destroying/hiding/stealing/massing items, selling towers, etc).
@ShadowWeaver should be banned(or at least warn+scold) for acummulated: teamkill on @SeDLiMitteD, one-sided negative attitude to players in game, votekick abuse on @osug (my personal thoughts here: im sure he clearly effected the game in negative way when looking at the outcome)
Any form of votekick abuse is prohibited
Do not spam or randomly start !votekicks, do not !votekick to avoid being kicked, and do not !votekick without proper reasons. Votekicks are ban-able even if they are not passed since negative intentions can still be assessed and misusing it can lead others to misuse it.
Do not ruin the game on purpose:
Do not teamkill (ex. blocking, maliciously using spells, destroying/hiding/stealing/massing items, selling towers, etc).

[ShadowWeaver]

ow i feel obligated to comment your way of handling things:
You rush things too fast, you are not thinking about consequences, if you didnt teamkill @sedlimitted he could stay passive or even start listening PROBABLY, i want to recall last words of Titan player after kicking @sedlimitted out because he started teamkilling:

I agree. It was wrong of me to react so quickly and be so aggressive, for a while now, in the game's i have been playing, I just don't even talk. Just let things flow into place.

o sum up, i want to make you realize that you shouldnt act too fast, even if game is at stake.

I also, agree with this, that I have been to hasty, fast and bad. I understand that it may ruin games for others, and yes i was angry at the time and that affected by judgement.

Apologies to everyone.

[HazarDous]

First of all, I need to highlight the fact that this was sedlimitted's first ID game (on ENT atleast).

(07:25 / Allied) voodoo_chile: you only need 6 fruit trees
Builds 2 more after that (10 total).

Completly ignore advices, playing the game on his own.

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(09:43 / Allied) SeDLiMitteD: -no
(09:46 / Allied) SeDLiMitteD: !no
(09:49 / Allied) SeDLiMitteD: stfu
(09:51 / Allied) SeDLiMitteD: all
(09:55 / Allied) SeDLiMitteD: fkcing reatrd
(09:59 / Allied) SeDLiMitteD: i learn

Problem is, you started to TK his building after that. I can therefore not apply any ban on SeDLiMitteD.

Next time, stick to the rules, and use the appropriate tools at your disposal to get rid of game ruiner(s).


Ban request denied.